New use for schrader valves
- soakernerd
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New use for schrader valves
I was thinking about the new schrader valve I purchased, and I realized that it could make a great cap for a super soaker.
All separate pressure chamber water guns have a small one way valve in the cap to keep them from imploding. I have an unnatural tendency to lose them, so i decided to find a solution. Basically, do your standard cap replacement, but also insert a schrader into the reservoir.
All separate pressure chamber water guns have a small one way valve in the cap to keep them from imploding. I have an unnatural tendency to lose them, so i decided to find a solution. Basically, do your standard cap replacement, but also insert a schrader into the reservoir.
- cantab
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Re: New use for schrader valves
Interesting idea. Though you will have to check whether the valve actually opens when subjected to negative pressure (lower on the inside), and how much.
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- Specter
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Re: New use for schrader valves
Agreed with cantab, usually schrader valves open when the pin gets pushed down by a pump/compressor valve
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- JuchTurtles
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Re: New use for schrader valves
Interesting idea, soakernerd. It should work pretty well.
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- C-A_99
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Re: New use for schrader valves
I think the valve should work, but maybe only when the suction gets too far. It depends on how strong the springs are. Originally, I considered using check valves, but this method will save a ton of space.
On the other hand, I think a large check valve, while expensive, may be worth it if you can fill via the valve as a quick-filler instead of having to unthread something. Unthreading a cap to refill takes a lot longer during a war than one may think, and it's very easy to mis-thread a cap in the heat of battle. For PR guns, attaching ball valve will do. (Which I didn't think of when someone posted a problem with a lost cap earlier, but I don't know how well the valve would've fit.)
On the other hand, I think a large check valve, while expensive, may be worth it if you can fill via the valve as a quick-filler instead of having to unthread something. Unthreading a cap to refill takes a lot longer during a war than one may think, and it's very easy to mis-thread a cap in the heat of battle. For PR guns, attaching ball valve will do. (Which I didn't think of when someone posted a problem with a lost cap earlier, but I don't know how well the valve would've fit.)
- JuchTurtles
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Re: New use for schrader valves
Duh! Why didn't any of us think of a ball valve in the first place? Of course, schradors are a lot smaller and are still effective, but I'm talking about the missing XP 15 cap.
Oh well. Sorry about all that rambling.
Oh well. Sorry about all that rambling.
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- C-A_99
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Re: New use for schrader valves
I did think of using a ball valve some time ago, but forgot about it as time went on. Apparently, it's too bulky and expensive for stock blasters, but it'd be a much nicer way to fill than the annoying caps that don't thread on correctly half the time, and not to mention take forever to close completely.
- JuchTurtles
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Re: New use for schrader valves
If you use a 1/2" valve, it shouldn't be very hard at all. I use 1/2"ers frequently and they are a lot easier than any larger size. And I think that would fit an XP 15 (would look big and out of place a little, however).
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- zeda.beta
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Re: New use for schrader valves
Would the 1/2" ball valves fit a super soaker 10? I have been trying to find a cap for mine for ages.
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- JuchTurtles
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Re: New use for schrader valves
If you're talking about this soaker, I'd say yes. You may have to use a 3/4" piece of PVC, small-size to 1/2", and insert a ball-valve. Unfortunately, this will no longer make this smaller soaker as small, yet, it will work if this comes down to a last resort. You may be able to epoxy a 1/2" valve without the pipe before, because the pipe would make this fix bulky and not wanted, unfortunately. Do it if it's the last resort only.
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