Water Balloon Crossbow

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Water Balloon Crossbow

Post by strato_2r5 » Wed Mar 23, 2011 11:55 pm

I don't know if there's another thread like this, so sorry if it's already posted.

Okay, so I'm doing a science project on launchers and I'm comparing throwing, slinshots, and air pressure. Obviously air pressure is the winner, but I want an excuse to try this out.

I'll post a blueprint later. I'm thinking of using some 3" PVC pipe for a barrel, some bungee cord, wooden dowels, and the lower receiver of the Nerf Fast Action Rifle (it's a homemade). Would this work?
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Re: Water Balloon Crossbow

Post by C-A_99 » Thu Mar 24, 2011 12:35 am

I've considered this as well but never did anything about it. The focus is on constructing a good crossbow more than it is on building a WBL, though obviously the design has to be adapted for launching water balloons.

A well designed crossbow would seem to be able to launch balloons fairly decent distances. No idea how far though, and a traditional 3-man launcher would probably perform much better.

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Re: Water Balloon Crossbow

Post by cantab » Thu Mar 24, 2011 1:32 am

Well using bungee would make it a slingshot. For a true crossbow you have to have the power coming from a bow. Wood is the usual material, though I've seen bodged crossbows using skis. Leaf springs would be overkill for a WBL.

It would be interesting to see how a sling does. They can get ranges far greater than an unaided throw, but accuracy takes a lot of practice.
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Re: Water Balloon Crossbow

Post by soakernerd » Thu Mar 24, 2011 2:23 am

I would just use the bow arms commonly found on Nerf homemades. They are cheap, and you can get very good performance out of them. I have been working on making one shoot water, but a WB seems like it might be easier.
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Re: Water Balloon Crossbow

Post by isoaker_com » Thu Mar 24, 2011 4:56 pm

One major issue with water balloons versus arrows or Nerf/foam arrows is the sheer weight of the balloon. Even small balloons are 20x to 30x heavier than comparable foam arrows. Real arrows are a comparable weight to a small water balloon, but their shape is much better for flight through air (obviously :p ). You'll need fairly strong bungie cords if they are small and won't be stretched too far since you want a more mobile device. Might get ok ranges, but may be a good challenge to ensure the mechanism doesn't end up ripping itself apart.

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Re: Water Balloon Crossbow

Post by soakernerd » Thu Mar 24, 2011 5:13 pm

Are you guys thinking of using direct propulsion or pneumatics? Direct would be easier, and that is what I would be using.
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Re: Water Balloon Crossbow

Post by C-A_99 » Thu Mar 24, 2011 9:35 pm

I haven't seen crossbows that use pneumatic plungers, unless you count spring powered as crossbows. However, I don't think springs could supply enough power; you'd need a bungee it seems. (That's what I assumed was meant by "crossbow"; a bow that uses a bungie, not a spring or spring&plunger.)

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Re: Water Balloon Crossbow

Post by soakernerd » Thu Mar 24, 2011 9:59 pm

I thought you were building nerf-style crossbows. I have built small spring powered crossbows using 1" PVC and a clothespin trigger. it all depends on how big a spring you use, but with a relatively weak spring, my best one was capable of shooting random objects through cardboard boxes.
With a 2" bore and a bigger spring (I am thinking at least a k26) I have no doubt that I could throw a WB a good distance.
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Re: Water Balloon Crossbow

Post by strato_2r5 » Thu Mar 24, 2011 10:05 pm

Okay! I got the blueprint done. Tell me what you think.

Off Topic: Is it spelled bungie or bungee?
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Re: Water Balloon Crossbow

Post by C-A_99 » Thu Mar 24, 2011 11:03 pm

Bungie is the name of the video game developer (famous for creating the Marathon and Halo franchises), "bungee" is the flexible cord.

I tried a bow-like launcher myself before, using a 3" pipe, two steel L brackets, a smaller PVC stick, and some exercise stretching band that seems to be similar to surgical tubing. The designed failed miserably, launching balloons no further than squirt gun range. If you get plenty of force and use a long bow, it may work considerably better. However, wood seems very prone to snapping; PVC would probably be better.

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Re: Water Balloon Crossbow

Post by strato_2r5 » Thu Mar 24, 2011 11:13 pm

Okay so instead of wooden dowels I'll use PVC. What's the recommended length for cord and the "bow" part?
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Re: Water Balloon Crossbow

Post by mysterio » Fri Mar 25, 2011 2:25 am

CPVC is much more bendy then PVC

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Re: Water Balloon Crossbow

Post by zeda.beta » Thu Mar 31, 2011 6:19 pm

You might not want to use PVC, because of the shatter factor, but that might just be my superstition. CPVC should be avoided because it is bendy. Less tension, less power. I would go with a nice length of yew, and shape it as needed.
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Re: Water Balloon Crossbow

Post by strato_2r5 » Thu Mar 31, 2011 9:15 pm

Hmm... Yew. Isn't that what real bows are made of? It's not supposed to be lethal!
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Re: Water Balloon Crossbow

Post by zeda.beta » Fri Apr 01, 2011 8:56 am

It won't be lethal. The only thing I was worrying about was the PVC shattering, so if you replace the really long arms of PVC with much shorter arms made out of yew, you would get the same power in a more compact form.
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