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How Does This Work?

Posted: Mon Jul 26, 2004 10:34 pm
by Leprechaun71588
Lately I've been working on my homemade gun, and I'm trying to improve the range on it. I read that putting straws in the nozzle helps keep the stream together so it will go farther. I've tried it, but it didn't work for me. It only dropped the range. Can anyone explain this to me more clearly, or tell me what might be going wrong.

Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2004 2:00 am
by Drewsky92
Putting straws will not make is shoot farther, it will laminate the stream.

Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2004 9:45 am
by Spinner
Originally posted by Drewsky92@Jul 27 2004, 03:00 AM
Putting straws will not make is shoot farther, it will laminate the stream.
Laminating the stream WILL make it shoot farther, as far as I know. :huh:

I'm afraid I don't know the answer to your problem, you might have to wait for Doom to answer this.

Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2004 3:09 pm
by Leprechaun71588
Could the problem be that I'm putting too many in? I'm using 1/2" PVC and a 1/4" nozzle, with 5 straws. Is that too many? Too few? Is there a better way to improve stream lamination?

Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2004 10:42 pm
by King Soaker
I'm not sure about this one, but I found something interesting with Super Soakers. If you notice that all the CPS models have a stainless screen in the nozzle. I tried removing the screen from a CPS 2700 thinking it would shoot farther. It had the reverse effect, and only made the stream break up.

Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2004 12:34 am
by Drewsky92
Could the problem be that I'm putting too many in? I'm using 1/2" PVC and a 1/4" nozzle, with 5 straws. Is that too many? Too few? Is there a better way to improve stream lamination?
No, Doom put more in his.

Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2004 2:38 am
by Leprechaun71588
I'm not sure about this one, but I found something interesting with Super Soakers. If you notice that all the CPS models have a stainless screen in the nozzle.
I've never seen one of these screens. Would you happen to have a pic of it I could see? Maybe that would work better than the straws...

No, Doom put more in his.
Any idea of how many is good? When I use 5, it's already getting a little crowded, I didn't think it would be a good idea to do any more because it would block the water from getting through.

I checked on his Air-Pressure home made, and he had 8, but he was using 3/4" pvc.

Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2004 4:50 am
by blaze
Ahh yes all CPS guns (from what I know) have that screen. It makes the stream all awesome like and less stupid like.

The straws, when I used them in my homemade, just made the range worse. I'm probably going to use mesh because it works in CPS guns, so it's gotta work in a homemade. However, I think the 2500 and 2000 have a straw like thing along with a mesh screen.

Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2004 5:05 am
by BlueSmudge
Some Soakers with higher output (I think at least 10X, but there is no scale really) have straw like plastic things, that acording to Doom are 3.5 inches long. Most just have a screen. If you are using 3/4" then that is garden hose sized, so oyu can buy garden hose screens. They are a metal mesh with rubber on the rim for a good seal. Look at a hardware store for em. I think you should have a screen after the straws too if you are going to put em in.

Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2004 5:18 am
by blaze
Haha, my homemade's output is over 50x on the 1/4" nozzle. That's a bit over 10x, I'd say. Yet the straws just made it worse. I'll look for these garden hose screens you speak of.

Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2004 5:31 am
by BlueSmudge
I Don't like my riot blast. It puts it off way to fast. If there was a little less drop off it would be nice.
O, and by the way, I Don't think your supposed to put the straws in the riot blast.

Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2004 6:27 am
by blaze
Uhh, 1/4" isnt riot blast. It's one of my nozzles, has a clean stream, and its output is still over 50x.

Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2004 4:41 pm
by Leprechaun71588
O, and by the way, I Don't think your supposed to put the straws in the riot blast.
Maybe that was my problem. I was trying it on my 1/4" nozzle. I just made an 1/8" nozzle, maybe it will work better on that.