Rusty Screws

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Post by NiborDude » Fri Jul 09, 2004 2:53 am

Im opening up a gun and some of the screws are so rusty that I can get them out. Any suggestions on how to get them out with out a screw driver?
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Post by Storm » Fri Jul 09, 2004 11:31 am

You could do exactly what I did.... ;) Get someone stronger :)
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Post by revengeofline » Fri Jul 09, 2004 2:27 pm

Read this article:

[url='http://www.sscentral.net/tech/oys.php']http://www.sscentral.net/tech/oys.php[/url]

It mentions getting better screwdrivers or drilling out the screws.

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Post by SSCBen » Fri Jul 09, 2004 2:40 pm

I'm not sure if I said this in the article, but push down on the screwdriver while turning really hard. Sometimes that gives you the grip needed. Sometimes that'll just make it worse, which is ok because you'll probably be drilling out half the screws anyway.

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Post by NiborDude » Fri Jul 09, 2004 3:11 pm

Tride it. I looked at the articles too. The screws have rusted to a point where the areas where the screw diriver is supose to go has completely disapeared.
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Post by RacerSoaker445 » Fri Jul 09, 2004 3:15 pm

You could try getting a small drill bit and drilling the rust out, once you have a space that the screwdriver will grip, then do what Doom said.

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Post by Burnerboy » Fri Jul 09, 2004 5:11 pm

if the hole where the screwdriver grips is square now, try using an allen wrench, or a square screw driver. square ones are rare but the work on lots of stuff. -_-
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Post by Storm » Fri Jul 09, 2004 6:24 pm

From what I understand it kind of sounds as if you won't be able to get it open. Your saying theres so much rust build-up you can't get to the screw? You could possibly sXPBackfire-esquee it out if that what your saying.
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Post by Drewsky92 » Sat Jul 10, 2004 2:40 am

I took vice-grip pliers and a screwdriver and by locking the pliers on the screwdriver, twisted the screw out.

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Post by NiborDude » Sat Jul 10, 2004 3:48 am

No, the rust has made the area where you put the screws disapeared. The top is now flat like a nail.
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Post by King Soaker » Sat Jul 10, 2004 4:30 am

Drilling them out is probably the only option. When you replace them, most hardware stores carry stainless screws that will never rust.
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Post by SSCBen » Sat Jul 10, 2004 3:14 pm

That is if you can get them out again. You actually can if you try hard enough, I've got 4 or 5 out of my 2700 that I had to drill. What I did was find the ones where there was a tinyI do recommend replacing screws too. I don't know what kind they will be because that probably changes from soaker to soaker. I would recommend bringing one to the store to compare.

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Post by TheMechanic » Fri Jul 16, 2004 1:49 am

Canadiens are smart they use square heads. My dad re-did a floor up there, an thats a lot of screws stripped like two of them. These were 40 years old two.

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Post by BeardedMike » Thu Apr 13, 2006 5:55 pm

Alright i know this topic has most likley been dead for some time, but i would like to know what size drill bit you should use to remove the screws. I know it varies form rifle to rifle but iam not sure on if iam supposed to destroy the threads the screws fit into and buy a slightly larger screw -or- use a bit small enough to get the screw out but not damage the threads so you can use the same size screw the next time around.

P.S. iam trying to remove the rusted screws on a Super Charger 600 to replace/mod a broken pump or check valve.

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Post by dr_spock » Sun Apr 16, 2006 3:11 am

I use one of these to remove stripped screws provided I can get into the screw hole with it. Otherwise, I just drill off the screw head with a drill bit slightly larger than the diameter of the screw threads.

Those square head screws are called Robinson in Canada. They're great if you use a drill or power screw driver to drive them. They don't strip like Philips (plus) or wobble all over the place like slot heads (minus).


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