A.r.m Or Cps 4100

[death angel]

Should I get a A.R.M or a CPS 4100? from what I here ther both good.

[Spinner]

CPS 4100, definitely. 8.5x v. 1x? Foregone conclusion.

Though I have to admit that I haven't actually used either of them yet.

[Lad]

I, personnally, prefer the cps 4100 over the ARM (my freind has it), but both of them have pros and their cons......

but the CPS 4100 I prefer because of the multiple nozzles, and you can easily give it a 30X nozzle (by modding it)......which is I feature I like........


Btw, does anyone know the price of the ARM? I'm just curious, cause I want to see how much more/less the CPS 4100 costs........

[RacerSoaker445]

I think the ARM costs $20 and the 4100 is $25.

I'd go with the 4100.

[Ben]

I think some online stores still sell the ARM for about $30. I don't have any links to the stores though. I would get the 4100 personally, or check out a Sports Authority for some 2100s. I still can't believe they had so many for so cheap...

[DX]

You can alter the fan blast on the 4100 into a 30x nozzle. I also saw one sell on ebay for only $15. My 4100 cost $30 and the only real problem is the trigger. If you push as close to the top of the trigger when firing, not near the bottom, it won't break. I figured that out the hard way.

[BlueSmudge]

noone has said the great deal on amazon. A 4100 for $20 thats $10 cheaper than a A.R.M
And you can get a 4100 at your local toysrus and save shipping costs.

[blaze]

Originally posted by Duxburian@Jun 1 2004, 12:13 PM
You can alter the fan blast on the 4100 into a 30x nozzle. I also saw one sell on ebay for only $15. My 4100 cost $30 and the only real problem is the trigger. If you push as close to the top of the trigger when firing, not near the bottom, it won't break. I figured that out the hard way.

I will probably make a new topic about this sometime as it is very interesting. I have 2 cps 4100s and have noticed some differences. the first one you just pull and it fires fine and it will never break but the second one when its fully pumped the trigger becomes very diffucult to pull and thats where people overpull and break the trigger.

like bluesmudge said, the cps 4100 is $20 on toysrus.com.

As to which to get, it is obvious that you should get the cps 4100. the arm doesn't even come close to being a tiny fraction of how powerful the 4100 is. The 4100 could even stand its ground against a cps 1500 or 1700, as the 4100 only has about a two foot range difference from them. if you get the arm, all you're showing is that you're a sponge. the 4100=awesome. the arm=piece of expensive, novelty, XPBackfire-esque!

also, if you get it you should saw off the end of the fan burst nozzles (I did to both of mine) and drill the hole in the back of that nozzle a bit bigger to make an easy 20x selectable nozzle that can shoot about 35 feet maximum (at an angle).

[BlueSmudge]

Also, if you are cutting off the fan burst. Go to your local hardware store/garden store and pick up a hose filter. Those mesh things. It will increase the stream cohesion or whatever and make you have less of a shotgun blast and hopefully more range. If you epoxy the thing it, it should be almost the perfect size

[Ben]

BlueSmudge, I find that you, in that post, violated the "Think before you post" rule. All CPS soakers already have the mesh stuff in the nozzle. They're right on top of the straws. Doing what you said wouldn't do anything.

[Jangadance]

I picked up the CPS 4100 at TrU for $19.99.

Definately go CPS over a gimmicky cyborg squirt gun.

[blaze]

Originally posted by DoomSoaker@Jun 2 2004, 01:51 AM
BlueSmudge, I find that you, in that post, violated the "Think before you post" rule.* All CPS soakers already have the mesh stuff in the nozzle.* They're right on top of the straws.* Doing what you said wouldn't do anything.

actually, doom, the cps 4100 does not have mesh. what is has (only behind the stream nozzles though) is a plate of plastic with strategically (I Don't know hiw to describle this) placed circle holes that make the stream nice and clean. also, on the 20x nozzle I made, I find it way better to have a going everywhere drenching shotgun blast than a clean smooth shot, though I do prefer that for the other streams.

and congratulations jengajam (or whatever) for getting one Hasbro HQ of a soaker! you can be my new homie (4100 is my favorite soaker).

[Jadefalcon09]

a plate of plastic with strategically (I Don't know hiw to describle this) placed circle holes that make the stream nice and clean. also

The plate does not do this, that is the coherence of the stream being exerted under pressure. Anyways this is a given, but the CPS 4100 for power, capacity and range. I have not tried an A.R.M. 4000 XL yet, and I do not plan to, but it looks like a neat concept.

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[BlueSmudge]

Originally posted by DoomSoaker@Jun 2 2004, 04:51 AM
BlueSmudge, I find that you, in that post, violated the "Think before you post" rule. All CPS soakers already have the mesh stuff in the nozzle. They're right on top of the straws. Doing what you said wouldn't do anything.

First off, as Blaze said, there is no mesh in the 4100. And as you oviously know I am a inexperienced user as far as the physics and shiznics of water goes.

Also I have asked this question in many threads but I never get an answer:
What in the world are the straws? Does super soaker use them? Sounds like you said they did. And for homemades, or homemade nozzles; what do you do to put em in?