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BlueSmudge · 05-12-2004, 01:39 PM

How did you make the pump? I don't know how they work, so I would have no idea how to make one.

Ben · 05-12-2004, 03:45 PM

The pump was very simple to make, I made it up as I made the homemade. This should show you how I made the pump more graphically, don't expect those images to be up forever though, I want to make an article about pumps later.

http://www.sscentral.net/images/homemade/DSCN0510.JPG

There's the gun shown with the backpack. Notice the duct tape all over the backpack, you can't see it well but it's the only thing holding it together because the zipper broke. Also notice the puddle of water under the backpack, thanks to a spill. :Hey, that's funny.:

Toaster · 05-12-2004, 06:27 PM

not bad. another way to figure out x value is to calculate ounces/second (what SS used to calculate their nozzles)

Ben · 05-12-2004, 07:37 PM

Actually, SS used it based upon the output of an XP 70, which is one ounce a second. I use 29 ml a second myself, that's an ounce.

BlueSmudge · 05-12-2004, 10:16 PM

Ahhhh, now I see how you make a pump, but what is the material that fits inside the PVC?

Ben · 05-13-2004, 05:49 AM

You mean the electrical tape?

BlueSmudge · 05-13-2004, 08:19 PM

No, not that. What do you wrap the electrical tape around. It doesn't look like PVC. Is it some sort of metal? or other plastic?

Ben · 05-14-2004, 05:52 AM

Oh that. It's a washer used to keep the pump from going into the internals, it fits in 1/2" ID PVC parts. I think it's the non-rust kind too.

BlueSmudge · 05-14-2004, 08:14 PM

Not that either. What is the long pipe or whatever that it the inside part of the pump. The actual pumping part.

Ben · 05-14-2004, 10:58 PM

Well then, it's an alluminum rod. I think 3/8".

BlueSmudge · 05-15-2004, 01:49 AM

Oh, ok thanks. I doubt its 3/8. 3/8 fits almost perfectly into 1/2 inch. Or did you use 3/4 or 1" PVC for your pump?

Ben · 05-15-2004, 10:12 AM

If I used 1" PVC, the pump would be so hard to pump it wouldn't even be worth pumping. I think I said I used 3/4" PVC for everything past the pump. For the pump and check valves, for numerous reason, one being cost (1/2" check valves are cheaper than 3/4") and another being the fact that anything larger than 1/2" likely will be too hard to pump. It's 1/2" ID PVC.

The rod is, and I read it off the label (it's in the first pic), 1/2". 1/2" ID PVC actually is a bit more than 1/2" from what I know, it fits fine. Sorry about saying it was 3/8", it's pretty funny that I didn't notice that!

BlueSmudge · 05-15-2004, 01:26 PM

yeah, 1/2" CPVC is actualy half inch.

Ben · 05-15-2004, 01:39 PM

Don't use CPVC, it's more expensive and does not hold more pressure. It is only made from what I know to work better with corrosive gasses and liquids. Do not think it's better, schedule 80 or higher PVC is for higher pressures.

MaxSoakage · 05-15-2004, 03:03 PM

It looks awesome

05-12-2004, 01:39 PM	#46
BlueSmudge Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 886 UserID: 97	How did you make the pump? I don't know how they work, so I would have no idea how to make one. __________________ -------------------------------------------------------------- BlueSoak.net --------------------------------------------------------------

05-12-2004, 03:45 PM	#47
Ben Founder Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: College Park, Maryland Posts: 6,054 UserID: 1	The pump was very simple to make, I made it up as I made the homemade. This should show you how I made the pump more graphically, don't expect those images to be up forever though, I want to make an article about pumps later. http://www.sscentral.net/images/homemade/DSCN0510.JPG There's the gun shown with the backpack. Notice the duct tape all over the backpack, you can't see it well but it's the only thing holding it together because the zipper broke. Also notice the puddle of water under the backpack, thanks to a spill. :Hey, that's funny.: __________________ email: / Forum rules / Read this page before emailing me. Do not send me a PM or email with a water gun question if someone else could answer the question. Post at the forums. You will get a response from me along with others' views or ideas.

05-12-2004, 06:27 PM	#48
Toaster Leggo my Lego, dangit! Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: AB, Canada Posts: 185 UserID: 108	not bad. another way to figure out x value is to calculate ounces/second (what SS used to calculate their nozzles) __________________

05-12-2004, 07:37 PM	#49
Ben Founder Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: College Park, Maryland Posts: 6,054 UserID: 1	Actually, SS used it based upon the output of an XP 70, which is one ounce a second. I use 29 ml a second myself, that's an ounce. __________________ email: / Forum rules / Read this page before emailing me. Do not send me a PM or email with a water gun question if someone else could answer the question. Post at the forums. You will get a response from me along with others' views or ideas.

05-12-2004, 10:16 PM	#50
BlueSmudge Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 886 UserID: 97	Ahhhh, now I see how you make a pump, but what is the material that fits inside the PVC? __________________ -------------------------------------------------------------- BlueSoak.net --------------------------------------------------------------

05-13-2004, 05:49 AM	#51
Ben Founder Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: College Park, Maryland Posts: 6,054 UserID: 1	You mean the electrical tape? __________________ email: / Forum rules / Read this page before emailing me. Do not send me a PM or email with a water gun question if someone else could answer the question. Post at the forums. You will get a response from me along with others' views or ideas.

05-13-2004, 08:19 PM	#52
BlueSmudge Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 886 UserID: 97	No, not that. What do you wrap the electrical tape around. It doesn't look like PVC. Is it some sort of metal? or other plastic? __________________ -------------------------------------------------------------- BlueSoak.net --------------------------------------------------------------

05-14-2004, 05:52 AM	#53
Ben Founder Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: College Park, Maryland Posts: 6,054 UserID: 1	Oh that. It's a washer used to keep the pump from going into the internals, it fits in 1/2" ID PVC parts. I think it's the non-rust kind too. __________________ email: / Forum rules / Read this page before emailing me. Do not send me a PM or email with a water gun question if someone else could answer the question. Post at the forums. You will get a response from me along with others' views or ideas.

05-14-2004, 08:14 PM	#54
BlueSmudge Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 886 UserID: 97	Not that either. What is the long pipe or whatever that it the inside part of the pump. The actual pumping part. __________________ -------------------------------------------------------------- BlueSoak.net --------------------------------------------------------------

05-14-2004, 10:58 PM	#55
Ben Founder Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: College Park, Maryland Posts: 6,054 UserID: 1	Well then, it's an alluminum rod. I think 3/8". __________________ email: / Forum rules / Read this page before emailing me. Do not send me a PM or email with a water gun question if someone else could answer the question. Post at the forums. You will get a response from me along with others' views or ideas.

05-15-2004, 01:49 AM	#56
BlueSmudge Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 886 UserID: 97	Oh, ok thanks. I doubt its 3/8. 3/8 fits almost perfectly into 1/2 inch. Or did you use 3/4 or 1" PVC for your pump? __________________ -------------------------------------------------------------- BlueSoak.net --------------------------------------------------------------

05-15-2004, 10:12 AM	#57
Ben Founder Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: College Park, Maryland Posts: 6,054 UserID: 1	If I used 1" PVC, the pump would be so hard to pump it wouldn't even be worth pumping. I think I said I used 3/4" PVC for everything past the pump. For the pump and check valves, for numerous reason, one being cost (1/2" check valves are cheaper than 3/4") and another being the fact that anything larger than 1/2" likely will be too hard to pump. It's 1/2" ID PVC. The rod is, and I read it off the label (it's in the first pic), 1/2". 1/2" ID PVC actually is a bit more than 1/2" from what I know, it fits fine. Sorry about saying it was 3/8", it's pretty funny that I didn't notice that! __________________ email: / Forum rules / Read this page before emailing me. Do not send me a PM or email with a water gun question if someone else could answer the question. Post at the forums. You will get a response from me along with others' views or ideas.

05-15-2004, 01:26 PM	#58
BlueSmudge Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 886 UserID: 97	yeah, 1/2" CPVC is actualy half inch. __________________ -------------------------------------------------------------- BlueSoak.net --------------------------------------------------------------

05-15-2004, 01:39 PM	#59
Ben Founder Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: College Park, Maryland Posts: 6,054 UserID: 1	Don't use CPVC, it's more expensive and does not hold more pressure. It is only made from what I know to work better with corrosive gasses and liquids. Do not think it's better, schedule 80 or higher PVC is for higher pressures. __________________ email: / Forum rules / Read this page before emailing me. Do not send me a PM or email with a water gun question if someone else could answer the question. Post at the forums. You will get a response from me along with others' views or ideas.

05-15-2004, 03:03 PM	#60
MaxSoakage Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 24 UserID: 91	It looks awesome __________________ "If elected mayor my first act is going to be to burn ya'll to cinders (whisper) I know its on"-Wille From the episode Bart's Inner Child

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