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Ben · 05-06-2004, 08:42 PM

I finished my latest homemade yesterday, it had air leaks so I tried to fix them. The gun is working great, it has one leak left but I reglued it and it wasn't much of a problem anyway. Range or any other stat hasn't been measured accurately yet, but it can shoot over 45 feet. I haven't thought of a name yet, but I'll get one soon. I have a track meet tommorow and likely won't be on in the afternoon, so I'll post more ino on Saturday.

BlueSmudge · 05-06-2004, 08:52 PM

Can you post some pictures?

RacerSoaker445 · 05-06-2004, 09:38 PM

pics please! Hey, that's funny.

BlueSmudge · 05-06-2004, 11:27 PM

Is it air pressure? Or CPS? can you actually make a decent air pressure homemade?

Ben · 05-07-2004, 04:51 AM

It's air, of cource you can make a decent air gun. SS is the only people who made air pressure seem weak.

I'll get pictures this weekend.

Xray · 05-07-2004, 06:19 AM

I'd love to see some pictures!

SS did make Air Pressure look weak, even though its infinitly times stronger than CPS. All you need is to get up into the triple digits of PSI and you've got an extremely powerful soaker. I was screwing around one day, and had this little 3L tank thing - put 2 L of water in it and 175 PSI of air pressure - it drained the tank in about 0.4 seconds(the nozzle was only like 3-5x too), and the nozzle hit me in the forhead during that time due to extreme kickback. Too bad it was a propane tank, those things are too heavy.

I can only imagine that same thing at 300 PSI, id need a rifle-butt to keep it steady during firing!

Can't wait for pic's,
blake

RacerSoaker445 · 05-07-2004, 09:11 AM

Holy Soakers! (I said it again!), you'd need to screw the thing on to a base or something!

Spinner · 05-07-2004, 02:43 PM

What kind of nozzle size are we talking about here? How complex was it to build?

Neuro · 05-07-2004, 08:31 PM

muahahahahahahaha I know what it is. I think. probably. but I am not telling joo! doom will tell when he is ready. ok enough leetspeek. that propane tank thing is an interesting thought though. perhaps pvc > sch. 80 could hold 300 psi?

BlueSmudge · 05-07-2004, 10:12 PM

CPVC probably could, if regular can hold 200.
How do you get something up to over 100 PSI without CO2 or a air compressor? THose would be kinda of hard to move around the feild with, and expensive.

Ben · 05-08-2004, 09:32 AM

CPVC is meant for corrosive gasses and stuff, it's not higher pressure! Schedule 80 or 120 is meant for high pressure, and still is lighter than a propane tank!

People have had schedule 40 being pressurized over 300 psi before too, but that's going way over the ratings and won't work every time.

Good job on the 175 psi gun, I don't know the PSI of my gun, but I can estimate it using some math based upon the number of pumps and PC size. You're not too far off from that 100 foot range gun I said I could make, the nozzle size was way too small and the stream must have been very unlaminated due to the fact that you implied that you used a hose from the tank to the nozzle by saying it hit you in the head, luckily the tank didn't hit you, but the hose from the tank to the nozzle contributes to stream breakup.

I'll get pictures and stats today, this is really an awesome gun. I know I can make it shoot over 50 with with the right nozzle, maybe 55 with more pumps, who knows, could even be over 60!

Neuro · 05-08-2004, 10:07 AM

I'm putting a psi gauge on my wbl, they're not that expensive.

Ben · 05-08-2004, 10:41 AM

I know they're not, I just didn't buy one.

I just took range of the 1/4" and 3/8" nozzles, and the PC capacity at 40 pumps. Didn't get accurate shot time though. At 40 pumps, the PC has about 1100 ml in it, 25% more should be in at 50 pumps. The range is amazing, and this also is without the stream laminators (straws) in the nozzle, I lost most of them when testing on Thursday because they blew out of the nozzle since I did not keep them in!

1/4" nozzle - 52 feet to the largest spot, 56 to the last drop
3/8" nozzle - 55 feet to the largest spot, 60 and a few inches to the last drop

I only pumped 50-55 times to get that range, pumping was easy due to the 1/2" pump diameter, more range is very possible, especially with the straws in! I am very satisfied with this gun, when I get the money I'm going to make more. I'll take range with the straws in later, and with more pumps in to see the real potential of this gun. I'll also find the ideal nozzle size for the straws and without, this gun is great, don't pass this up and build one (or buy!) when I make the instructions. It's as powerful as a CPS 2000!

BlueSmudge · 05-08-2004, 11:40 AM

what do stream laminators do?

Spinner · 05-08-2004, 11:43 AM

They improve stream cohesion so that you get better range.

05-06-2004, 08:42 PM	#1
Ben Founder Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Maryland Posts: 5,974 UserID: 1	My latest creation I finished my latest homemade yesterday, it had air leaks so I tried to fix them. The gun is working great, it has one leak left but I reglued it and it wasn't much of a problem anyway. Range or any other stat hasn't been measured accurately yet, but it can shoot over 45 feet. I haven't thought of a name yet, but I'll get one soon. I have a track meet tommorow and likely won't be on in the afternoon, so I'll post more ino on Saturday. __________________ email: ben at sscentral dot org / Forum rules Read this page before emailing me. Do not send me a PM or email with a water gun question if someone else could answer the question. Post at the forums. You will get a response from me along with others' views or ideas. Do not send me a PM or email about reading a certain post unless it's been a few days since you've posted. I try to read every post.

05-06-2004, 08:52 PM	#2
BlueSmudge Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 886 UserID: 97	Can you post some pictures? __________________ -------------------------------------------------------------- BlueSoak.net --------------------------------------------------------------

05-06-2004, 09:38 PM	#3
RacerSoaker445 Still selling stuff. Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: On my tricked out PC Posts: 944 UserID: 83	pics please! Hey, that's funny. __________________ WORKING Guns For Sale: CPS 3200, Max-D 5000, WW Glo-Blaster BROKEN Guns For Sale: CPS 1500 + 15 Balloon K-Mod, Flash Flood + 3-layer collossus & PRVD, XXP 175, WW Hornet, SS 50 More info here. Interested? PM me.

05-06-2004, 11:27 PM	#4
BlueSmudge Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 886 UserID: 97	Is it air pressure? Or CPS? can you actually make a decent air pressure homemade? __________________ -------------------------------------------------------------- BlueSoak.net --------------------------------------------------------------

05-07-2004, 04:51 AM	#5
Ben Founder Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Maryland Posts: 5,974 UserID: 1	It's air, of cource you can make a decent air gun. SS is the only people who made air pressure seem weak. I'll get pictures this weekend. __________________ email: ben at sscentral dot org / Forum rules Read this page before emailing me. Do not send me a PM or email with a water gun question if someone else could answer the question. Post at the forums. You will get a response from me along with others' views or ideas. Do not send me a PM or email about reading a certain post unless it's been a few days since you've posted. I try to read every post.

05-07-2004, 06:19 AM	#6
Xray Builder of Soakers Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 68 UserID: 99	I'd love to see some pictures! SS did make Air Pressure look weak, even though its infinitly times stronger than CPS. All you need is to get up into the triple digits of PSI and you've got an extremely powerful soaker. I was screwing around one day, and had this little 3L tank thing - put 2 L of water in it and 175 PSI of air pressure - it drained the tank in about 0.4 seconds(the nozzle was only like 3-5x too), and the nozzle hit me in the forhead during that time due to extreme kickback. Too bad it was a propane tank, those things are too heavy. I can only imagine that same thing at 300 PSI, id need a rifle-butt to keep it steady during firing! Can't wait for pic's, blake

05-07-2004, 09:11 AM	#7
RacerSoaker445 Still selling stuff. Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: On my tricked out PC Posts: 944 UserID: 83	Holy Soakers! (I said it again!), you'd need to screw the thing on to a base or something! __________________ WORKING Guns For Sale: CPS 3200, Max-D 5000, WW Glo-Blaster BROKEN Guns For Sale: CPS 1500 + 15 Balloon K-Mod, Flash Flood + 3-layer collossus & PRVD, XXP 175, WW Hornet, SS 50 More info here. Interested? PM me.

05-07-2004, 02:43 PM	#8
Spinner Administrator Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: UK Posts: 1,322 UserID: 77	What kind of nozzle size are we talking about here? How complex was it to build? __________________ ISS: Soaker Sagas Submit your saga and see it up with other titans of water warfare.

05-07-2004, 08:31 PM	#9
Neuro Retired Moderator Join Date: May 2003 Location: Michigan Posts: 1,081 UserID: 30	muahahahahahahaha I know what it is. I think. probably. but I am not telling joo! doom will tell when he is ready. ok enough leetspeek. that propane tank thing is an interesting thought though. perhaps pvc > sch. 80 could hold 300 psi? __________________ "I used to care, but now I take a pill for that." You can pretty much ignore the times on that, I rarely ever have Xfire on when I play. I should, though.

05-07-2004, 10:12 PM	#10
BlueSmudge Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 886 UserID: 97	CPVC probably could, if regular can hold 200. How do you get something up to over 100 PSI without CO2 or a air compressor? THose would be kinda of hard to move around the feild with, and expensive. __________________ -------------------------------------------------------------- BlueSoak.net --------------------------------------------------------------

05-08-2004, 09:32 AM	#11
Ben Founder Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Maryland Posts: 5,974 UserID: 1	CPVC is meant for corrosive gasses and stuff, it's not higher pressure! Schedule 80 or 120 is meant for high pressure, and still is lighter than a propane tank! People have had schedule 40 being pressurized over 300 psi before too, but that's going way over the ratings and won't work every time. Good job on the 175 psi gun, I don't know the PSI of my gun, but I can estimate it using some math based upon the number of pumps and PC size. You're not too far off from that 100 foot range gun I said I could make, the nozzle size was way too small and the stream must have been very unlaminated due to the fact that you implied that you used a hose from the tank to the nozzle by saying it hit you in the head, luckily the tank didn't hit you, but the hose from the tank to the nozzle contributes to stream breakup. I'll get pictures and stats today, this is really an awesome gun. I know I can make it shoot over 50 with with the right nozzle, maybe 55 with more pumps, who knows, could even be over 60! __________________ email: ben at sscentral dot org / Forum rules Read this page before emailing me. Do not send me a PM or email with a water gun question if someone else could answer the question. Post at the forums. You will get a response from me along with others' views or ideas. Do not send me a PM or email about reading a certain post unless it's been a few days since you've posted. I try to read every post.

05-08-2004, 10:07 AM	#12
Neuro Retired Moderator Join Date: May 2003 Location: Michigan Posts: 1,081 UserID: 30	I'm putting a psi gauge on my wbl, they're not that expensive. __________________ "I used to care, but now I take a pill for that." You can pretty much ignore the times on that, I rarely ever have Xfire on when I play. I should, though.

05-08-2004, 10:41 AM	#13
Ben Founder Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Maryland Posts: 5,974 UserID: 1	I know they're not, I just didn't buy one. I just took range of the 1/4" and 3/8" nozzles, and the PC capacity at 40 pumps. Didn't get accurate shot time though. At 40 pumps, the PC has about 1100 ml in it, 25% more should be in at 50 pumps. The range is amazing, and this also is without the stream laminators (straws) in the nozzle, I lost most of them when testing on Thursday because they blew out of the nozzle since I did not keep them in! 1/4" nozzle - 52 feet to the largest spot, 56 to the last drop 3/8" nozzle - 55 feet to the largest spot, 60 and a few inches to the last drop I only pumped 50-55 times to get that range, pumping was easy due to the 1/2" pump diameter, more range is very possible, especially with the straws in! I am very satisfied with this gun, when I get the money I'm going to make more. I'll take range with the straws in later, and with more pumps in to see the real potential of this gun. I'll also find the ideal nozzle size for the straws and without, this gun is great, don't pass this up and build one (or buy!) when I make the instructions. It's as powerful as a CPS 2000! __________________ email: ben at sscentral dot org / Forum rules Read this page before emailing me. Do not send me a PM or email with a water gun question if someone else could answer the question. Post at the forums. You will get a response from me along with others' views or ideas. Do not send me a PM or email about reading a certain post unless it's been a few days since you've posted. I try to read every post.

05-08-2004, 11:40 AM	#14
BlueSmudge Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 886 UserID: 97	what do stream laminators do? __________________ -------------------------------------------------------------- BlueSoak.net --------------------------------------------------------------

05-08-2004, 11:43 AM	#15
Spinner Administrator Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: UK Posts: 1,322 UserID: 77	They improve stream cohesion so that you get better range. __________________ ISS: Soaker Sagas Submit your saga and see it up with other titans of water warfare.

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