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soakernerd · 02-01-2010, 02:37 PM

I was thinking about the new schrader valve I purchased, and I realized that it could make a great cap for a super soaker.

All separate pressure chamber water guns have a small one way valve in the cap to keep them from imploding. I have an unnatural tendency to lose them, so i decided to find a solution. Basically, do your standard cap replacement, but also insert a schrader into the reservoir.

cantab · 02-01-2010, 04:22 PM

Interesting idea. Though you will have to check whether the valve actually opens when subjected to negative pressure (lower on the inside), and how much.

Specter · 02-01-2010, 05:02 PM

Agreed with cantab, usually schrader valves open when the pin gets pushed down by a pump/compressor valve

JuchTurtles · 02-02-2010, 06:38 AM

Interesting idea, soakernerd. It should work pretty well.

C-A_99 · 02-02-2010, 11:32 AM

I think the valve should work, but maybe only when the suction gets too far. It depends on how strong the springs are. Originally, I considered using check valves, but this method will save a ton of space.

On the other hand, I think a large check valve, while expensive, may be worth it if you can fill via the valve as a quick-filler instead of having to unthread something. Unthreading a cap to refill takes a lot longer during a war than one may think, and it's very easy to mis-thread a cap in the heat of battle. For PR guns, attaching ball valve will do. (Which I didn't think of when someone posted a problem with a lost cap earlier, but I don't know how well the valve would've fit.)

JuchTurtles · 02-03-2010, 11:15 AM

Duh! Why didn't any of us think of a ball valve in the first place? Of course, schradors are a lot smaller and are still effective, but I'm talking about the missing XP 15 cap.

Oh well. Sorry about all that rambling.

C-A_99 · 02-03-2010, 11:51 AM

I did think of using a ball valve some time ago, but forgot about it as time went on. Apparently, it's too bulky and expensive for stock blasters, but it'd be a much nicer way to fill than the annoying caps that don't thread on correctly half the time, and not to mention take forever to close completely.

JuchTurtles · 02-03-2010, 12:31 PM

If you use a 1/2" valve, it shouldn't be very hard at all. I use 1/2"ers frequently and they are a lot easier than any larger size. And I think that would fit an XP 15 (would look big and out of place a little, however).

zeda.beta · 02-03-2010, 03:50 PM

Would the 1/2" ball valves fit a super soaker 10? I have been trying to find a cap for mine for ages.

-Zeda

JuchTurtles · 02-05-2010, 01:40 PM

If you're talking about this soaker, I'd say yes. You may have to use a 3/4" piece of PVC, small-size to 1/2", and insert a ball-valve. Unfortunately, this will no longer make this smaller soaker as small, yet, it will work if this comes down to a last resort. You may be able to epoxy a 1/2" valve without the pipe before, because the pipe would make this fix bulky and not wanted, unfortunately. Do it if it's the last resort only.

02-01-2010, 02:37 PM	#1
soakernerd Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 104 UserID: 2008	New use for schrader valves I was thinking about the new schrader valve I purchased, and I realized that it could make a great cap for a super soaker. All separate pressure chamber water guns have a small one way valve in the cap to keep them from imploding. I have an unnatural tendency to lose them, so i decided to find a solution. Basically, do your standard cap replacement, but also insert a schrader into the reservoir.

02-01-2010, 04:22 PM	#2
cantab Administrator Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: England Posts: 1,069 UserID: 1400	Re: New use for schrader valves Interesting idea. Though you will have to check whether the valve actually opens when subjected to negative pressure (lower on the inside), and how much. __________________ I work on Windows. My toolbox is Linux. Arsenal: Super Soaker: XP215, 2xXP220, Liquidator, Aquashock Secret Strike M(odded), Arctic Blast M, CPS1200, CPS2100, SC Power Pak, 3l aquapack, 1.5l aquapack Water Warriors: Jet, Sting Ray M, Shark, Argon M, Tiger Shark, PulseMaster Others: Waterbolt, The Blaster, Storm 500, Shield Blaster 2000, generic PR gun, generic backpack piston pumper (broken), 3l garden sprayer M, 10l water carrier:

02-01-2010, 05:02 PM	#3
Specter Senior Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Bound Brook, NJ/Widener U-Chester, PA Posts: 439 UserID: 1090	Re: New use for schrader valves Agreed with cantab, usually schrader valves open when the pin gets pushed down by a pump/compressor valve __________________ My "arsenal": Customizable APH, Storm 600 pistol (still haven't finished fixing this), launcher- Model:AB1.0(Decommissioned), AB1.5, soon AB 1.1(2"rebuild) maybe ill get something else in the future My site

02-02-2010, 06:38 AM	#4
JuchTurtles Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Virginia Posts: 406 UserID: 1928	Re: New use for schrader valves Interesting idea, soakernerd. It should work pretty well. __________________ The name's Juch, just Juch. Also known as Commander JuchJawsTurtles, commander of the C0BALT TiDE team in The Ocean Volcano Union. SPLASH! You're dead!

02-02-2010, 11:32 AM	#5
C-A_99 Administrator Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: MI, US Posts: 883 UserID: 809	Re: New use for schrader valves I think the valve should work, but maybe only when the suction gets too far. It depends on how strong the springs are. Originally, I considered using check valves, but this method will save a ton of space. On the other hand, I think a large check valve, while expensive, may be worth it if you can fill via the valve as a quick-filler instead of having to unthread something. Unthreading a cap to refill takes a lot longer during a war than one may think, and it's very easy to mis-thread a cap in the heat of battle. For PR guns, attaching ball valve will do. (Which I didn't think of when someone posted a problem with a lost cap earlier, but I don't know how well the valve would've fit.) __________________ Teams, Armory, Local Water Warfare, etc. HydroBrawl Water Warfare.

02-03-2010, 11:15 AM	#6
JuchTurtles Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Virginia Posts: 406 UserID: 1928	Re: New use for schrader valves Duh! Why didn't any of us think of a ball valve in the first place? Of course, schradors are a lot smaller and are still effective, but I'm talking about the missing XP 15 cap. Oh well. Sorry about all that rambling. __________________ The name's Juch, just Juch. Also known as Commander JuchJawsTurtles, commander of the C0BALT TiDE team in The Ocean Volcano Union. SPLASH! You're dead!

02-03-2010, 11:51 AM	#7
C-A_99 Administrator Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: MI, US Posts: 883 UserID: 809	Re: New use for schrader valves I did think of using a ball valve some time ago, but forgot about it as time went on. Apparently, it's too bulky and expensive for stock blasters, but it'd be a much nicer way to fill than the annoying caps that don't thread on correctly half the time, and not to mention take forever to close completely. __________________ Teams, Armory, Local Water Warfare, etc. HydroBrawl Water Warfare.

02-03-2010, 12:31 PM	#8
JuchTurtles Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Virginia Posts: 406 UserID: 1928	Re: New use for schrader valves If you use a 1/2" valve, it shouldn't be very hard at all. I use 1/2"ers frequently and they are a lot easier than any larger size. And I think that would fit an XP 15 (would look big and out of place a little, however). __________________ The name's Juch, just Juch. Also known as Commander JuchJawsTurtles, commander of the C0BALT TiDE team in The Ocean Volcano Union. SPLASH! You're dead!

02-03-2010, 03:50 PM	#9
zeda.beta StormSniper Join Date: May 2009 Location: Crater 5, Moon Posts: 207 UserID: 1825	Re: New use for schrader valves Would the 1/2" ball valves fit a super soaker 10? I have been trying to find a cap for mine for ages. -Zeda __________________ As Starship Troopers once said: "Look buddy! You're dead!" My Water guns: New version SS50, x2 Storm 760, Max D 6000, Liquidator, Max Infusion Overload, Bottle Shot, x3 Vaporizers

02-05-2010, 01:40 PM	#10
JuchTurtles Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Virginia Posts: 406 UserID: 1928	Re: New use for schrader valves If you're talking about this soaker, I'd say yes. You may have to use a 3/4" piece of PVC, small-size to 1/2", and insert a ball-valve. Unfortunately, this will no longer make this smaller soaker as small, yet, it will work if this comes down to a last resort. You may be able to epoxy a 1/2" valve without the pipe before, because the pipe would make this fix bulky and not wanted, unfortunately. Do it if it's the last resort only. __________________ The name's Juch, just Juch. Also known as Commander JuchJawsTurtles, commander of the C0BALT TiDE team in The Ocean Volcano Union. SPLASH! You're dead!

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