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[Neuro]

hyper, make it good. thats all I have to say.

[Ben]

Well, I do hope it's good. I really would like something other than a mod or homemade myself, I try to do all of that and I would get kinda mad if someone was better than me. :Hey, that's funny.:

[The dark ANNIHILATOR]

Well, I do hope it's good. I really would like something other than a mod or homemade myself, I try to do all of that and I would get kinda mad if someone was better than me.

Yeah, some sort of "Super-Mod" would be bad news for us, since I don't like to build, and you will have to Out-Mod it. So it better be something like CPS Cannons in 2005.

(Well Hyper_9, you raised the expectations of the SSCentral members.)

[pilchard]

Oooh the anticipation! I am can not waiting big mod for change super soaker world hard to waiting. Sorry, I had an attack of the dyslexia :P But really now, how much will this change the world of soaking? A simple wbl or homemade would't do it, it would have to be like a formula where you insert the specs of the gun and it generates an accurate measure of how good the weapon, or a new way to measure nozzles, something like that. Im just guessing though.

[Neuro]

doom already made something kinda like that, its under tech articles I think.

[The dark ANNIHILATOR]

A few days ago I have seen the Total X-Stream 2004 line. They look pretty good. The one I like most is a cannon sized piston. Around the length of the CPS1500. I recommend that one over the Vaporizer. Also, it has a large tank and shoots 9 meters average which is pretty good for a piston. The stronger ones among us might reach 15 meters.

[Ben]

X-Stream should be really good. They're Nerf guns are amazing, modded their largest one which takes 1 pump to prime shoots over 100 feet, which is very good for Nerf. I hope their water guns are similar. I have one X-Stream Nerf gun, the Triple Shot, it's pretty good, but could be better with modding(Nerf modding is 100 times easier than SS modding).

Yeah, I made some sort of ratings system way back. It's here if you want to read it.

[USSA]

if I remember correctly the one that shoots round corners is like the mds with a little shinny sticker("mirror") so you know what you are shootin at. Nice idea bad execution

[Ben]

Some like the MDS, so don't. I'd rather shoot straight at something myself.

[The dark ANNIHILATOR]

if I remember correctly the one that shoots round corners is like the mds with a little shinny sticker("mirror") so you know what you are shootin at. Nice idea bad execution

That was a 2003 model. Their first Air Pressure soaker actually. 2004 shows an incredible improvemnet. 2003 Pistons where ok, but not the best on the market. The cannon sized piston in 2004 named Total X-Stream Blast Master 600 could easily outperform the Splashfire, Helix and Vaporizer.

The 2004 Air Pressure soakers have a similar design to the 2003 model, but got the mirror Gadget removed. I also have seen a dual nozzle model among the Air Pressure X-Stream soakers this year.

[Ben]

So which is it this year? X-Stream or Water Warriors? We'll have to wait until we buy some to know.

[The dark ANNIHILATOR]

So which is it this year? X-Stream or Water Warriors? We'll have to wait until we buy some to know.

I would say its still Water Warriors this year because of the Diaphram technology. But X-Stream is close behind. I will get the cannon sized piston this week. If it can rival other Air pressure soakers, and perhaps the lightning and surprisingly the Blazer, if the BM 600 has a large nozzle, then it will be a battle between those newcomer-companies for first place.

For the people who liked the XXP175, you should consider picking up the X-Stream dual nozzle. And it should also be noted that the Total X-Stream Blast Master 600(I will refer it as BM 600 in the future) has a slick and long futuristic rifle design making aiming very good. Combine that with piston power and continues shots, it can be a fairly good weapon on the field.

[Ben]

I haven't got to look at this diaphram technology yet. I really don't get what he said about how it works, and I think that it's similar in power to the air pressure ones, only more constant.

I think I'll buy the Blazer and the BM 600 this year and that's it. Maybe the 3A, most likely not. I'll get a look at this diaphram technology and see what I can do in terms of modding, I'm hoping it can be modded like the K mod.

[The dark ANNIHILATOR]

I haven't got to look at this diaphram technology yet. I really don't get what he said about how it works, and I think that it's similar in power to the air pressure ones, only more constant.

According to isoaker, the diaphram stream behaves almost identical to the CPS stream thickness and power. The only difference is, that the last second has a drop of. The reason for the drop of according to Big Bee, is that its the left over water that would have usually remained in the pressure chamber in CPS models. So the last second on the diaphram soaker is something like a flushout part.

Also big bee claims that diaphram technology is the next step from CPS technology. It lasts longer, has the same constant pressure behavior and is capable to get more water out of the chambers.

The only thing that diaphram technology has in comon with Air Pressure technology is, that the more chambers you add, the more powerful it becomes. I would say thats actually a good quality, that made Airpessure soakers less limited in power improvement than CPS soakers. You could have 2 CPS chambers and it does not necessarly mean that the soaker would be more powerful. The MXL is an example for that. I wonder if it could be said that Diaphram tech combines the best from both worlds(CPS and Airpressure), by having CPS thick power, Airpressure shot time length and fexibility. But we would still have to buy a Blazer to answer that.

[Ben]

You could have 2 CPS chambers and it does not necessarly mean that the soaker would be more powerful. The MXL is an example for that.

I always thought that MXL had one chamber. That doesn't make sense to me, it should be more powerful, unless they ruined it with the SC capabilities. iSoaker.com says it has a 1270 ml PC, that is only twice that of a CPS 1000, and it has the larger piston type of CPS so I don't think it has 2 chambers, rather a larger one.

Multiple CPS chambers should be more powerful for the same reason multiple air chambers are more powerful. Think of each chamber as a single and separate chamber. Suddenly attach 3 other chambers, the output should be 4 times as high. Adding another chamber adds more resistance, more air to compress, more rubber. Think of multiple chambers as one big chamber basically, that doesn't work on my CPS theory though. <_<

I actually haven't tested multiple CPS chambers, but I do expect it to be more powerful. I think SS only had multiple chambers on air pressure guns because the stuff used to attach CPS chambers is almost as large as the air chambers, and CPS chambers can get as large as they need to be. Air pressure also needs to be designed to work with gravity, having one big chamber usually would require having some sort of tubing going into the chamber so that the water does not need to be near a specified intake spot. That likely is why they have multiple chambers.

From the description of this diaphram technology that I've read, he only said that it "allows for a higher pressure assist" or something like that, I don't think he said that it is equal to CPS in power. When it comes to power though, air would be the king because it's so easy to use. I wouldn't doubt that Diaphram lasts longer, have you ever seen a CPS chamber pop! Man, it's sad, luckily I know how to replace them.