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| | #16 |
| Retired Moderator Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Canada
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UserID: 56 | Even after all the ranting, I saw a video of the Hydroblitz being shot (both nozzles were shown) by jlspacemarine on youtube, and I want one. The small nozzle has really good shot time and good range and the hydroblitz nozzle performs well enough for me to use in a backyard fight. I just want a large blaster that's intimidating looking.
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| | #17 |
| Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: albuquerque (I live there and i still have trouble spelling it
Posts: 61
UserID: 1494 | are you guys insane!? granted it's big and cumbersome, but it shoots out four blasts the size of a flash flood! I soaked 3 guys on one pressurized chamber!!!
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| | #18 |
| Founder Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: College Park, Maryland
Posts: 6,054
UserID: 1 | Statistically, those blasts aren't impressive. According to iSoaker.com the blasts are only 6X. My CPS 1000 shoots 5 to 6X as well, but with a stream. Other water guns have 10X or more, and homemade water guns have unlimited capabilities. Why have a short ranged blast that has less output than a long range stream? "Standard" homemade water guns are capable of 50X or more in a riot blast. With that you can soak 5+ people completely in one shot. More powerful homemade water guns are capable of 100X or more easily. Compared against what's available today, the Hydro Blitz is among the best. But compared against the best manufactured and homemade water guns, the Hydro Blitz doesn't compare. I think it's a shame that they made such a large water gun so unpowerful. DX was right when he said it has the lowest power to size ratio around.
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| | #19 |
| Member Join Date: Mar 2005
Posts: 62
UserID: 365 | does the it have any mod potential? |
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| | #20 |
| Administrator Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Maryland
Posts: 718
UserID: 320 | The Hydroblitz's internals are extremely complicated. In fact, it has two pressure chambers. If you really wanted to, you could Colossus both chambers, but this may not have much of an effect. The most useful modification would be replacing the pump with something standard. I know I would want to do that the most--the pumping action just looks stupid if you ask me. A normal pump would work just fine; I have no clue why they had to make the pump like that. But in all, it was a gimmick big gun, and doesn't even approach the performance of the last gimmick big gun, the Monster XL. And from this, the Hydroblitz will benefit from a straight multi-nozzle modification to give it more versatility; the big blast and little blast philosophy of the last few years just doesn't work as well as a good run-of-the-mill nozzle selector. Still, don't think that a mod's gonna make that much difference. As I know Ben has said in the past, "You can't make a tricycle into a monster truck."
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| | #21 |
| Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: MI, US
Posts: 470
UserID: 809 | The HB's size and weight to power ratio is awful too, which is the reason I wouldn't put it on the top list. The 2nd pressure chamber is a waste of money, space, weight, and power and overall, the blaster would've been considerably more effective if it's designers weren't so gimmick minded and actually put some power into the thing. True, the FF and AB were also designed in a gimmick-minded way, but with a little nozzle modification, you can get somewhat decent range in a small package. |
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| | #22 |
| Super Moderator Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Somewhere
Posts: 279
UserID: 301 | @Drenchenator: the pump was designed like that, I believe, both to go with the styling of the blaster as well as offer a little more force-per-stroke thanks to the additional leverage. The main PC must be stronger than the secondary PC, otherwise it wouldn't be able to fill it. That said, I don't like that method of pumping, either, but it's be quite an undertaking to re-tube and replace the pumping mechanism on the Hydro Blitz. ![]() Just had to include this, though. ![]() |
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| | #23 |
| Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Ontario, Canada (GTA)
Posts: 291
UserID: 569 | DX: The HB is not the worst for power to size ratio, the EX630 is. It's about the length of a 2000, and it has a ~1x stream. That is the worst power/size ratio. The pump on the HB is also a double stroke pump. It is smaller, but each pump is about the same amount of water as your normal pump. Personally, I think the HB is a waste of money, because its $50, and you can get an AB for like $20-30, and it is easier to mod.
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| | #24 |
| Founder Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: College Park, Maryland
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UserID: 1 | The EX630 is a piston water gun which puts it into a different class, at least in my opinion. You're limited to your own strength. For pressurized water guns, the Hydro Blitz certainly is among the worst if not the worst for power-to-size ratio. Compare it against the CPS 1500 or even CPS 1000. It doesn't compare. This year I'm looking to buy a Hydro Blitz to modify or at least check out. If it's not worthwhile I think I might give it away in a contest or something similar.
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| | #25 |
| Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Ontario, Canada (GTA)
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UserID: 569 | The EX 630 is not piston, but PR. The gun has an effective pinch trigger, and a minimal stream. I posted a review about it here a while ago, probably like 2 years ago or something. EX630 It's mostly dead space though, but it has a very laminar stream.
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| | #26 |
| Founder Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: College Park, Maryland
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UserID: 1 | I was thinking of this for some reason: http://forums.sscentral.org/t3617/ The numbers must have confused me.
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| | #27 |
| Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Ontario, Canada (GTA)
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UserID: 569 | Oh, I see. That is understandable since 630/660 are fairly close together. ![]() However, they are completely different manufacturers, the numbers are close (ish) together...
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| | #28 | |
| Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: I live on ground.
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UserID: 1533 | I highly sudjest not getting it, Because the pump is the worst thing i have ever seen in my intire life, if you are goign to get a big soaker jsut get a flash flood, its clean sturder easy to repair and has a good pump with kick, Now lets see here the hydroblitz.... Errmmm.. have you seen how u pump it, I mean COME ON! heres what isoaker.com has to say about this thing. Quote:
heres the pros and cons. pros: Intimidating styling, decent build, and has a dual-stage pump. Stream shot time and performance impressive while Blitz setting pulses cover a good area while not squandering water too quickly. Has shoulder strap. Max-Infusion Aquapack compatible for potential doubling of reservoir capacity. Cons: Dry weight of blaster on the heavy side. Pump design and trigger/grip placement means weight of blaster must be supported by the strap; carrying the blaster by the pump handle and grip alone is not recommended; aiming and pumping motions not as natural as with standard-shape water blasters. Output from Blitz nozzle limited for a blaster of this size and weight. Secondary firing chamber difficult to properly empty after use. In a way i ghess it could be a good soaker for base battles when you have time to take it off you shoulder and pump it. but its not to be used as a main weapon for quick up front battles. Just my words, I think i should buy it before i say this. But i can tell just by looking at it how it could be hard to use. | |
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| | #29 |
| Member Join Date: May 2008
Posts: 30
UserID: 1539 | Go with the Orca, I did and I am so much happier I did. |
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