MAX D-3000 opnions

[JCSoaker]

I recently joined a spy vs. spy game and I am attempting to stock up on crazy super soakers to catch some spies off guard with as much as water as possible. I couldn't find any decent cps (eg. CPS 3000, 3200, Monster XL) or had the knowledge or skill to make one. However, I did find a huge stock of the MAX D-3000s (2003). They looked weak, but I guess they could be of some use as back-up weapons on the run.
There were only $12.98 ($6.49 each) in a double box set.
(There were like fifteen double box sets in the store)
Do you think it was a good deal?

I want opinions on the MAX D-3000. Thanks.
By the way I live in Canada.

[Ben]

For a spy vs. spy game (I am assuming you're playing the game commonly called "killer" or "assassins"), the Max-D 3000 should be a pretty good water gun to use. Those games require stealth and attacks can occur at an time. A smaller water gun such as the Max-D 3000 can work in those situations.

Of course, if a certain amount of water is required for a kill in your game, the Max-D 3000 might not be the best choice. I don't think anyone will say that you got a bad deal. This would be a good as a backup at the very least.

[C-A_99]

Looks like a pretty good pistol from what I've heard, having performance comparable to larger air pressure guns. (just holding less water) However, if you're going for large volumes of water, CPS's would be best, and the MD3k would really be useful as a pistol instead.

[DX]

The MD 3000 is only going to work if you know you can pull-off your kills well. If the first shot connects, then it doesn't matter what soaker you've got. If your first shot misses, then an ambush may become a duel and your gun may become outclassed.

Range matters a lot. If you plan on hitting point-blank, the MD 3000 is fine. Wind and the such may mess with the stream at longer ranges, so then you'd want a gun with more output. In addition, you also might want to consider stream speed. Most store-bought water guns shoot around the same speed. If you can find a mid-size CPS gun, you could increase the speed at which it shoots with a few relatively simple mods.

[Silence]

The MD2K and MD3K are the best guns you can buy for this, in my opinion. Sure, there could be some custom ones that have tiny hoses and nozzles running through your sleeve and the gun body hidden...but these work well too.

The guns have decent range and little dropoff, so you'll do well even in a duel. If the enemy has a better weapon, it'll have to be a lot bigger and more visible.

I doubt you'll get into duels though, although I have no experience here. I'm just saying this because it's easy to rapid-fire the shots because it's easy to tap the trigger. Range dropoff is minimal, once again, so you can take a few more shots if you miss. I'd get up close anyway, though.

Good luck!

[DX]

While I've never done a water wars style assassin game, I did run a Nerf one. When a player missed his/her first shot in an ambush, a duel often ensued. The target would often take out their own gun and fall back. Then again, this tournament was team assassination, which works differently when both the targets and ambushers brought in some teammates.

The last time I dueled with a Max-D pistol, I got badly pwned...ok, it was against a 1700, but still, it is easy to be overmatched. Concealment of the gun usually only matters for the assassin. The target could have any sized gun they please in certain places such as their house or car.

[Silence]

Most of the people doing Dart Wars probably were using Nitefinders, where they'd have to load a new dart and recock the gun before firing again. That could take five to ten seconds. Three taps of a Max-D 3000 trigger might take 1 second, max.

It could take the enemy five seconds to pull out a gun for defense. If you get up close and take them out from behind, they can't get out of range easily. Even if the target pulled a large gun, they probably wouldn't have left it pressurized so long, and if they did, its range advantage would probably be null because of the weakened bladder. (Unless it's an air-pressure water gun.)

[The Stealthy Panda]

(Slightly off topic)
Where did you find the MAX-D 3000s? I need to find a two pack.

[JCSoaker]

I bought them at my local store $6 each. They have tons of them in stock, go find them, they are widely available.