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quaternio · 10-04-2006, 10:39 PM

I'm playing a game similar to street wars (streetwars.net), and I need a gun that is concealable that squirts a minimal amount of water. In the second video on the above website is a design, but I'm new at this stuff and can't really figure out the components of the device in the video. Any small, easy, and cheap design like this will do, so if anyone can point me to specific design I'd be most greatful. Again, I don't need power at all, I just need to covertly get someone wet with something that has at least about a ten-ish foot range. I could probably go to Lowes and figure it out, but I've only got a couple of days to get something for this thing.

thanks a lot

Silence · 10-04-2006, 11:25 PM

I don't really want RealPlayer on my computer, so I can't view the video file. Maybe another program can play it...

Anyway, I'm surprised they've shown a homemade weapon. If that's the case, it's likely a PPP (PVC Piston Pumper), which I can link to on m15399's site if you want me to. If you only need 10 feet of range, then any old squirt gun for a dollar will do. Otherwise, I would recommend a soaker like the Buzz Bee Cricket--pocket size with decent range.

It's really not worth building a homemade unless it's going to be either simple or larger than 6 inches long

. But the extra range could be useful, especially if your enemies can only shoot a fifth of your range.

quaternio · 10-05-2006, 01:09 AM

i'm actually refering to the embedded YouTube videos on the front page. anyway, it essentially is a three foot hose with a few valves (presumably for pumping air pressure, or something), a nozzle, and a bladder-like squeezable pump. The whole contraption fits into one long sleeve, accross the back, and out the other sleeve, with the pump in one hand and the nozzle in the other. Its just one long cord, and it might simply be a hose filled with water that is fired by simply squeezing the pump, the valve simply being there to prevent leakage when not in use. I thought that maybe somebody would have done this before and therefore might have recognized it. It seems to be somewhat similar to the "MWC" that was recently posted.

in the video, this actual device seems to shoot quite a bit farther than 10 feet, which would be nice. part of the problem is that there isn't really a great selection of water guns in stores at this time of the year, and i need something in a few days. i may resort to a simple store bought gun, but i thought i'd try to see if there is an easily made design out there (this one looks incredibly simple too).

---- apparently YouTube is down, so the videos on the main page aren't working at the moment

Ben · 10-05-2006, 06:36 AM

I'll get a design for you later today. This morning I need to leave. Until then, if you read this, let me know in this thread if you're fine with ordering things from McMaster-Carr.

quaternio · 10-05-2006, 12:52 PM

i don't mind, i just don't know if i would get it in time; i live in a college dorm and all shipping service (usps, ups, fedex, etc.) go through the post office, which has limited hours for picking up packages. i might even be able to find LRT somewhere locally (but i'm not sure). in any case, i figured that i might have to use a substitute.

i really appreciate your assistence!

oh, and as a side note, finding McMaster-Carr through this forum is sort of a watershed for me. for a long time i've been looking to try to learn to make biodiesal, and its looking like this site has some of the large industrial-type stuff that i'll need to do it. it will be quite the learning experience though, because i'm not really a very mechanical person. perhaps some experience working with valves and so forth in homemade water guns will help me too

Silence · 10-05-2006, 07:23 PM

It's relatively hard to make out the pictures since I had to skip through the frames, but it should be fairly simple. You'll need the LRT (did you find the link on the main page?), hose adapters (fittings that go into the LRT) and Jubilee clips (round clamps that hold the LRT onto the adapters), pressure-resistant hose tubing and adapters for that (one adapter should have a ball valve for the trigger), and a piece to connect to a hose for filling.

Ben's 2 Liter Homemade article is probably the most relevant. I'd suggest some changes, though. For example, the use of an adapter with a ball valve eliminates the need for the hose gun, but a nozzle system will help if you want much better range. The hose filling fitting will be in the same location. However, you will probably want LRT instead of an air-pressure chamber; some recent thread that I've linked to talk about balloons for the CPS chamber instead, so that's an option. Otherwise, LRT will do.

Ben · 10-05-2006, 07:37 PM

I didn't have any time today to do anything and have only a few minutes to spare before I have to return to writing two reports due tomorrow. Tomorrow afternoon should be more free for me. Sorry for the delay.

Also, I would highly suggest against any design similar to the MWC for several reasons. The MWC design is not powerful, is more complicated than it needs to be, and has no nozzle. Consequently it performs poorly.

What I have in mind right now should get about 40 - 45 feet of range for at least three minutes straight and be completely concealable... I'm considering making a prototype with some leftover parts, but not right now because I'm very busy.

quaternio · 10-06-2006, 09:46 AM

i'll take the word of experience then. thanks very much.

Ben · 10-07-2006, 07:06 AM

I have a small prototype made. I'll edit in pictures and a parts list later today. This is very concealable in either a shirt or very baggy pants. I believe it would work best being concealed in a sweatshirt however.

10-04-2006, 10:39 PM	#1
quaternio Junior member Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 5 UserID: 887	I need a concealable water gun I'm playing a game similar to street wars (streetwars.net), and I need a gun that is concealable that squirts a minimal amount of water. In the second video on the above website is a design, but I'm new at this stuff and can't really figure out the components of the device in the video. Any small, easy, and cheap design like this will do, so if anyone can point me to specific design I'd be most greatful. Again, I don't need power at all, I just need to covertly get someone wet with something that has at least about a ten-ish foot range. I could probably go to Lowes and figure it out, but I've only got a couple of days to get something for this thing. thanks a lot

10-04-2006, 11:25 PM	#2
Silence Administrator Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Virginia Posts: 3,293 UserID: 576	I don't really want RealPlayer on my computer, so I can't view the video file. Maybe another program can play it... Anyway, I'm surprised they've shown a homemade weapon. If that's the case, it's likely a PPP (PVC Piston Pumper), which I can link to on m15399's site if you want me to. If you only need 10 feet of range, then any old squirt gun for a dollar will do. Otherwise, I would recommend a soaker like the Buzz Bee Cricket--pocket size with decent range. It's really not worth building a homemade unless it's going to be either simple or larger than 6 inches long . But the extra range could be useful, especially if your enemies can only shoot a fifth of your range. __________________ Forum rules

10-05-2006, 01:09 AM	#3
quaternio Junior member Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 5 UserID: 887	i'm actually refering to the embedded YouTube videos on the front page. anyway, it essentially is a three foot hose with a few valves (presumably for pumping air pressure, or something), a nozzle, and a bladder-like squeezable pump. The whole contraption fits into one long sleeve, accross the back, and out the other sleeve, with the pump in one hand and the nozzle in the other. Its just one long cord, and it might simply be a hose filled with water that is fired by simply squeezing the pump, the valve simply being there to prevent leakage when not in use. I thought that maybe somebody would have done this before and therefore might have recognized it. It seems to be somewhat similar to the "MWC" that was recently posted. in the video, this actual device seems to shoot quite a bit farther than 10 feet, which would be nice. part of the problem is that there isn't really a great selection of water guns in stores at this time of the year, and i need something in a few days. i may resort to a simple store bought gun, but i thought i'd try to see if there is an easily made design out there (this one looks incredibly simple too). ---- apparently YouTube is down, so the videos on the main page aren't working at the moment Last edited by quaternio : 10-05-2006 at 01:19 AM.

10-05-2006, 06:36 AM	#4
Ben Founder Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: College Park, Maryland Posts: 6,054 UserID: 1	I'll get a design for you later today. This morning I need to leave. Until then, if you read this, let me know in this thread if you're fine with ordering things from McMaster-Carr. __________________ email: / Forum rules / Read this page before emailing me. Do not send me a PM or email with a water gun question if someone else could answer the question. Post at the forums. You will get a response from me along with others' views or ideas.

10-05-2006, 12:52 PM	#5
quaternio Junior member Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 5 UserID: 887	i don't mind, i just don't know if i would get it in time; i live in a college dorm and all shipping service (usps, ups, fedex, etc.) go through the post office, which has limited hours for picking up packages. i might even be able to find LRT somewhere locally (but i'm not sure). in any case, i figured that i might have to use a substitute. i really appreciate your assistence! oh, and as a side note, finding McMaster-Carr through this forum is sort of a watershed for me. for a long time i've been looking to try to learn to make biodiesal, and its looking like this site has some of the large industrial-type stuff that i'll need to do it. it will be quite the learning experience though, because i'm not really a very mechanical person. perhaps some experience working with valves and so forth in homemade water guns will help me too Last edited by quaternio : 10-05-2006 at 01:02 PM.

10-05-2006, 07:23 PM	#6
Silence Administrator Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Virginia Posts: 3,293 UserID: 576	It's relatively hard to make out the pictures since I had to skip through the frames, but it should be fairly simple. You'll need the LRT (did you find the link on the main page?), hose adapters (fittings that go into the LRT) and Jubilee clips (round clamps that hold the LRT onto the adapters), pressure-resistant hose tubing and adapters for that (one adapter should have a ball valve for the trigger), and a piece to connect to a hose for filling. Ben's 2 Liter Homemade article is probably the most relevant. I'd suggest some changes, though. For example, the use of an adapter with a ball valve eliminates the need for the hose gun, but a nozzle system will help if you want much better range. The hose filling fitting will be in the same location. However, you will probably want LRT instead of an air-pressure chamber; some recent thread that I've linked to talk about balloons for the CPS chamber instead, so that's an option. Otherwise, LRT will do. __________________ Forum rules

10-05-2006, 07:37 PM	#7
Ben Founder Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: College Park, Maryland Posts: 6,054 UserID: 1	I didn't have any time today to do anything and have only a few minutes to spare before I have to return to writing two reports due tomorrow. Tomorrow afternoon should be more free for me. Sorry for the delay. Also, I would highly suggest against any design similar to the MWC for several reasons. The MWC design is not powerful, is more complicated than it needs to be, and has no nozzle. Consequently it performs poorly. What I have in mind right now should get about 40 - 45 feet of range for at least three minutes straight and be completely concealable... I'm considering making a prototype with some leftover parts, but not right now because I'm very busy. __________________ email: / Forum rules / Read this page before emailing me. Do not send me a PM or email with a water gun question if someone else could answer the question. Post at the forums. You will get a response from me along with others' views or ideas.

10-06-2006, 09:46 AM	#8
quaternio Junior member Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 5 UserID: 887	i'll take the word of experience then. thanks very much.

10-07-2006, 07:06 AM	#9
Ben Founder Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: College Park, Maryland Posts: 6,054 UserID: 1	I have a small prototype made. I'll edit in pictures and a parts list later today. This is very concealable in either a shirt or very baggy pants. I believe it would work best being concealed in a sweatshirt however. __________________ email: / Forum rules / Read this page before emailing me. Do not send me a PM or email with a water gun question if someone else could answer the question. Post at the forums. You will get a response from me along with others' views or ideas.

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