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Ben · 11-23-2003, 02:32 PM

http://www.adrenaline-design.com/NewFiles/...ker%20Logo.html
I found that in a Google search. Do you think it's a new SS logo? It would seem so. Possibly for 2004.

superstormer · 11-23-2003, 02:40 PM

If you go to www.supersoaker.com you will get a pop-up of "Soaker-Tag." It looks like a new product for 2004.

Ben · 11-23-2003, 02:51 PM

Hmm. Maybe Larami was ripping us off to begin with. Read.

Ben · 11-25-2003, 07:09 PM

OMG. Nerf's got a new logo too!
http://www.adrenaline-design.com/NewFiles/...erf%20Logo.html
http://www.adrenaline-design.com/NewFiles/...Pro%20Logo.html

The dark ANNIHILATOR · 11-25-2003, 11:08 PM

The Super Soaker Logo better not be the only thing that is new.

Quote:

Hmm. Maybe Larami was ripping us off to begin with. Read.

"The Super Soaker brand of squirt gun is an example of planned obsolescence. A patent was granted for a self-contained device which uses hydraulic principles to project a stream of fluid. Introduced as a toy in the late 1980s, the original Super Soaker was a "hydraulic action squirt pistol." Sales were brisk and the market saturated quickly. The second generation of Super Soaker was an "extended capacity hydraulic action squirt pistol." Sales were brisk and the market saturated quickly. The third generation of Super Soaker was an "extended range hydraulic action squirt rifle." Sales were brisk and the market saturated quickly. The fourth and final generation of Super Soaker was an "extended capacity hydraulic action squirt rifle." Sales were brisk and the market saturated quickly."

They mentioned 4 generations above. The later generation suposed to be superior to the earlier one. What is the 4th generation which is suposed to be superior?

1st Gen.= Classic.
2nd Gen.= XP/XXP
3rd Gen.= CPS
4th Gen.= ?.. .... ... Max-D?... EES?... .

There is no superior 4th generation soaker, unless there was a generation patent which came before the Classic Series. And I don't know if the patent of the Classic and XP line differs at all. The way I see it, there are only 2 generation patents. Air Pressure and CPS Pressure. Everything else are just little modefication of the same soakers of the past. If there are just 2 generation patents, then the stage-milking theory of the article is flawed, since the milking has not really stoped and the 1st generation patent is still in use after around 15 years.

Ben · 11-26-2003, 04:48 AM

So it's like a circle? Hasbro is purposly making weak guns to confuse people for a while and them make more powerful one.

The dark ANNIHILATOR · 11-27-2003, 01:55 AM

I think so. The CPS soakers gets people hooked, while then they bring Air Pressure soakers back to make them want the CPS soakers more. And after the new CPS wave, they bring back AIr Pressure. That way, people will not expect something superior to the CPS technology. it's a clever way to keep consumers expectations low.

Ben · 11-27-2003, 06:33 AM

Once the patent expires any company can make CPS blasters. I think that would be in 2014.

Next year better be a CPS wave. I want more blasters. ^_^

shadowstalker · 11-27-2003, 01:22 PM

hmm why Don't they just figer out a way to make cps soakers better..
jerks we want to have wars as soon as possbly not wait so you can fill your pockets

Edit:grammer

The dark ANNIHILATOR · 11-28-2003, 01:52 AM

Improvement would mean money cost for research. Plus the consumers buy anything. This summer, all Max-Ds where sold out eventually.

Ben · 11-28-2003, 06:29 AM

I know what your talking about. This year, I never saw a Max-D in stores, except in like early March! Where I live the soaker stock always is bought early.

shadowstalker · 11-28-2003, 09:20 AM

I still think we need a new maker that has the buyer in mind not 1 that trys to cut cost

Ben · 11-28-2003, 09:46 AM

Yeah, but we can't get CPS from another company unless it is different in some way than the CPS patented by Hasbro. We'll have to wait until 2014 to get CPS from other companies if someone doesn't make a different kind of CPS.
Another company would be great though.

The dark ANNIHILATOR · 11-28-2003, 02:27 PM

It would be unfortunate to wait to 2014 for a quality continuation of 1998 soakers. Also, by then I think Hasbro just renewes the rights to the CPS patent. it's not really difficult to compete with Hasbro at the moment, since all they mainly offer now are Max-Ds. The flaw lies more with the other companies. All they have to do is make high powered Airs Pressure soakers similar to the XP 250, XXP275 and XP 300/Classic 300. Their technologies are not copy righted. And it's not difficult to improve upon those guns either. Having a double-barel air pressure backpack soaker with a 5X-7X nozzle is not hard to do. I guess the problem is, the watergun market is being run by idiots.

shadowstalker · 11-29-2003, 09:28 AM

agreed

you still can use a spring to push a pistion and you will have cps power. the only problem would be the orings wearing out on the pistion and they will have to be replaced -_-

11-23-2003, 02:32 PM	#1
Ben Founder Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Maryland Posts: 5,955 UserID: 1	http://www.adrenaline-design.com/NewFiles/...ker%20Logo.html I found that in a Google search. Do you think it's a new SS logo? It would seem so. Possibly for 2004. __________________ email: ben at sscentral dot org / Forum rules Read this page before emailing me. Do not send me a PM or email with a question if someone else could answer the question. Post at the forums so others could offer their take. Do not send me a PM or email about reading a certain post unless it's been a few days since you've posted. I try to read every post.

11-23-2003, 02:40 PM	#2
superstormer Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Maryland Posts: 328 UserID: 11	If you go to www.supersoaker.com you will get a pop-up of "Soaker-Tag." It looks like a new product for 2004. __________________ <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Socrates)</div><div class='quotemain'>I drank what?!</div>

11-23-2003, 02:51 PM	#3
Ben Founder Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Maryland Posts: 5,955 UserID: 1	Hmm. Maybe Larami was ripping us off to begin with. Read. __________________ email: ben at sscentral dot org / Forum rules Read this page before emailing me. Do not send me a PM or email with a question if someone else could answer the question. Post at the forums so others could offer their take. Do not send me a PM or email about reading a certain post unless it's been a few days since you've posted. I try to read every post.

11-25-2003, 07:09 PM	#4
Ben Founder Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Maryland Posts: 5,955 UserID: 1	OMG. Nerf's got a new logo too! http://www.adrenaline-design.com/NewFiles/...erf%20Logo.html http://www.adrenaline-design.com/NewFiles/...Pro%20Logo.html __________________ email: ben at sscentral dot org / Forum rules Read this page before emailing me. Do not send me a PM or email with a question if someone else could answer the question. Post at the forums so others could offer their take. Do not send me a PM or email about reading a certain post unless it's been a few days since you've posted. I try to read every post.

11-26-2003, 04:48 AM	#6
Ben Founder Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Maryland Posts: 5,955 UserID: 1	So it's like a circle? Hasbro is purposly making weak guns to confuse people for a while and them make more powerful one. __________________ email: ben at sscentral dot org / Forum rules Read this page before emailing me. Do not send me a PM or email with a question if someone else could answer the question. Post at the forums so others could offer their take. Do not send me a PM or email about reading a certain post unless it's been a few days since you've posted. I try to read every post.

11-27-2003, 01:55 AM	#7
The dark ANNIHILATOR Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 364 UserID: 53	I think so. The CPS soakers gets people hooked, while then they bring Air Pressure soakers back to make them want the CPS soakers more. And after the new CPS wave, they bring back AIr Pressure. That way, people will not expect something superior to the CPS technology. it's a clever way to keep consumers expectations low. __________________

11-27-2003, 06:33 AM	#8
Ben Founder Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Maryland Posts: 5,955 UserID: 1	Once the patent expires any company can make CPS blasters. I think that would be in 2014. Next year better be a CPS wave. I want more blasters. ^_^ __________________ email: ben at sscentral dot org / Forum rules Read this page before emailing me. Do not send me a PM or email with a question if someone else could answer the question. Post at the forums so others could offer their take. Do not send me a PM or email about reading a certain post unless it's been a few days since you've posted. I try to read every post.

11-27-2003, 01:22 PM	#9
shadowstalker Senior Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: Lousiana Posts: 397 UserID: 33	hmm why Don't they just figer out a way to make cps soakers better.. jerks we want to have wars as soon as possbly not wait so you can fill your pockets Edit:grammer __________________ "------------------!No OnE LeAvEs DrY!----------------" My Arsenal Agenst T.C.P.A. Say No! Defending Freedom in the Digital World

11-28-2003, 01:52 AM	#10
The dark ANNIHILATOR Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 364 UserID: 53	Improvement would mean money cost for research. Plus the consumers buy anything. This summer, all Max-Ds where sold out eventually. __________________

11-28-2003, 06:29 AM	#11
Ben Founder Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Maryland Posts: 5,955 UserID: 1	I know what your talking about. This year, I never saw a Max-D in stores, except in like early March! Where I live the soaker stock always is bought early. __________________ email: ben at sscentral dot org / Forum rules Read this page before emailing me. Do not send me a PM or email with a question if someone else could answer the question. Post at the forums so others could offer their take. Do not send me a PM or email about reading a certain post unless it's been a few days since you've posted. I try to read every post.

11-28-2003, 09:20 AM	#12
shadowstalker Senior Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: Lousiana Posts: 397 UserID: 33	I still think we need a new maker that has the buyer in mind not 1 that trys to cut cost __________________ "------------------!No OnE LeAvEs DrY!----------------" My Arsenal Agenst T.C.P.A. Say No! Defending Freedom in the Digital World

11-28-2003, 09:46 AM	#13
Ben Founder Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Maryland Posts: 5,955 UserID: 1	Yeah, but we can't get CPS from another company unless it is different in some way than the CPS patented by Hasbro. We'll have to wait until 2014 to get CPS from other companies if someone doesn't make a different kind of CPS. Another company would be great though. __________________ email: ben at sscentral dot org / Forum rules Read this page before emailing me. Do not send me a PM or email with a question if someone else could answer the question. Post at the forums so others could offer their take. Do not send me a PM or email about reading a certain post unless it's been a few days since you've posted. I try to read every post.

11-28-2003, 02:27 PM	#14
The dark ANNIHILATOR Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 364 UserID: 53	It would be unfortunate to wait to 2014 for a quality continuation of 1998 soakers. Also, by then I think Hasbro just renewes the rights to the CPS patent. it's not really difficult to compete with Hasbro at the moment, since all they mainly offer now are Max-Ds. The flaw lies more with the other companies. All they have to do is make high powered Airs Pressure soakers similar to the XP 250, XXP275 and XP 300/Classic 300. Their technologies are not copy righted. And it's not difficult to improve upon those guns either. Having a double-barel air pressure backpack soaker with a 5X-7X nozzle is not hard to do. I guess the problem is, the watergun market is being run by idiots. __________________

11-29-2003, 09:28 AM	#15
shadowstalker Senior Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: Lousiana Posts: 397 UserID: 33	agreed you still can use a spring to push a pistion and you will have cps power. the only problem would be the orings wearing out on the pistion and they will have to be replaced -_- __________________ "------------------!No OnE LeAvEs DrY!----------------" My Arsenal Agenst T.C.P.A. Say No! Defending Freedom in the Digital World

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