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joannaardway · 07-09-2006, 11:14 AM

w00t - I've help pioneer a new acronym.

Perhaps PRVD (Pressure Release Valve Disabling - I would say Removal, but Disabling covers gluing up PR soakers as well) would be better still - I remember posts that seem to believe actual freezing is needed.

If we are changing, why do anything but make it as clear as possible?

Of course we should mention the old acronym for the mod as well so we don't get posts saying: "OMG, what is a CVF and how do I do it?" only to say "It's the old name for PRVD"

At least with this - check valve can mean only one thing.

It'll take some getting used to, but as both SM and SSC are renovating, then we can try to clear this stuff up.

Lucius Octavion · 07-09-2006, 11:42 AM

Ok, one other thing I don't get is step 3 in mad zook. It says to "plug" the nozzle before glueing the QF on the part where the check valve used to be. What does this mean?

And are you sure it's 1/4 inch? In the picture it looks way bigger than that. I'm confused...

Silence · 07-09-2006, 01:52 PM

@ joannaardway: Nice...I'd support that change if we're changing everything else.

@ Lucius Octavion: Apparently they want you to use epoxy to close up the original nozzle. I had been assuming you would just add a ball valve and then be able to use either one, but I guess I was wrong.

PVC size measurements match the inner diameter (ID) of the tubing, not the outer diameter (OD). So it's going to be greater than 1/4" on the outside.

Lucius Octavion · 07-09-2006, 02:31 PM

Do they mean to seal it? Then the water can't shoot out. Do they mean around the cracks then?

Ben · 07-09-2006, 02:39 PM

Just seal the pipe onto the hole so that it can function as a nozzle. That's what they mean for you to do. I'd also suggest using a male adaptor to thread on different nozzle orifice sizes, but that's up to you.

Lucius Octavion · 07-09-2006, 07:44 PM

Do they have male adaptors that small? I have 3/8 inch pipe, that should be ok. The outer diameter is 1/2 inch and has no threading on it.

joannaardway · 07-10-2006, 07:11 AM

I'm currently holding an male end cap for 1/4" pipe.

It's for copper pipe, but it's certainly 1/4".

Lucius Octavion · 07-10-2006, 02:36 PM

Ok I need to know exactly 2 things.

What should the outer diameter of the pipe used for the nozzle be?

What should the inner diameter of the pipe used for the nozzle be?

Currently I have an outer diameter of 3/8 inch and that is too small.

Silence · 07-10-2006, 03:13 PM

Use the largest ID that isn't larger than that of the actual tubing. The whole point is to reduce the restricted flow, so use something as large as possible--but if it's too large, then you'll have terrible performance. You can use a male adapter and threaded endcaps to change the size to a smaller one at any time.

Lucius Octavion · 07-10-2006, 05:16 PM

How big should the outer diameter be in order to fit the trigger valve?

Silence · 07-11-2006, 07:36 PM

I don't know, since I don't actually have a Splashzooka, but common sense should tell you--I really wouldn't know. I guess you could always just use a ball valve of the correct size...

Lucius Octavion · 07-11-2006, 08:25 PM

Is it possible to use the check valve you just cut off?

DX · 07-11-2006, 08:47 PM

Well, it's not a true check valve. It's a pressure release valve, and only opens at a certain pressure. I would just buy a real check valve.

07-09-2006, 11:14 AM	#16
joannaardway Do not adjust your TV set Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: SW Hertfordshire, England Posts: 875 UserID: 549	w00t - I've help pioneer a new acronym. Perhaps PRVD (Pressure Release Valve Disabling - I would say Removal, but Disabling covers gluing up PR soakers as well) would be better still - I remember posts that seem to believe actual freezing is needed. If we are changing, why do anything but make it as clear as possible? Of course we should mention the old acronym for the mod as well so we don't get posts saying: "OMG, what is a CVF and how do I do it?" only to say "It's the old name for PRVD" At least with this - check valve can mean only one thing. It'll take some getting used to, but as both SM and SSC are renovating, then we can try to clear this stuff up. __________________ "Over the hills and far away, she prays he will return one day. As sure as the rivers reach the seas, back in his arms again she'll be." - Over the Hills and far away, Gary Moore "So many people have come and gone, their faces fade as the years go by. Yet I still recall as I wander on, as clear as the sun in the summer sky" - More than a feeling, Boston

07-09-2006, 11:42 AM	#17
Lucius Octavion Octavion with an "O" Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 33 UserID: 764	Ok, one other thing I don't get is step 3 in mad zook. It says to "plug" the nozzle before glueing the QF on the part where the check valve used to be. What does this mean? And are you sure it's 1/4 inch? In the picture it looks way bigger than that. I'm confused... __________________ Guns in possession: Speed Loader Double Cross 3000, 2 Speed Loader One Thousands, SS XP 110, Splashzooka, used to have more but they were unfixable.

07-09-2006, 01:52 PM	#18
Silence Administrator Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Virginia Posts: 3,315 UserID: 576	@ joannaardway: Nice...I'd support that change if we're changing everything else. @ Lucius Octavion: Apparently they want you to use epoxy to close up the original nozzle. I had been assuming you would just add a ball valve and then be able to use either one, but I guess I was wrong. PVC size measurements match the inner diameter (ID) of the tubing, not the outer diameter (OD). So it's going to be greater than 1/4" on the outside. __________________ Forum rules

07-09-2006, 02:31 PM	#19
Lucius Octavion Octavion with an "O" Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 33 UserID: 764	Do they mean to seal it? Then the water can't shoot out. Do they mean around the cracks then? __________________ Guns in possession: Speed Loader Double Cross 3000, 2 Speed Loader One Thousands, SS XP 110, Splashzooka, used to have more but they were unfixable.

07-09-2006, 02:39 PM	#20
Ben Founder Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: College Park, Maryland Posts: 6,086 UserID: 1	Just seal the pipe onto the hole so that it can function as a nozzle. That's what they mean for you to do. I'd also suggest using a male adaptor to thread on different nozzle orifice sizes, but that's up to you. __________________ email: / Forum rules / Read this page before emailing me. Do not send me a PM or email with a water gun question if someone else could answer the question. Post at the forums. You will get a response from me along with others' views or ideas.

07-09-2006, 07:44 PM	#21
Lucius Octavion Octavion with an "O" Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 33 UserID: 764	Do they have male adaptors that small? I have 3/8 inch pipe, that should be ok. The outer diameter is 1/2 inch and has no threading on it. __________________ Guns in possession: Speed Loader Double Cross 3000, 2 Speed Loader One Thousands, SS XP 110, Splashzooka, used to have more but they were unfixable.

07-10-2006, 07:11 AM	#22
joannaardway Do not adjust your TV set Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: SW Hertfordshire, England Posts: 875 UserID: 549	I'm currently holding an male end cap for 1/4" pipe. It's for copper pipe, but it's certainly 1/4". __________________ "Over the hills and far away, she prays he will return one day. As sure as the rivers reach the seas, back in his arms again she'll be." - Over the Hills and far away, Gary Moore "So many people have come and gone, their faces fade as the years go by. Yet I still recall as I wander on, as clear as the sun in the summer sky" - More than a feeling, Boston

07-10-2006, 02:36 PM	#23
Lucius Octavion Octavion with an "O" Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 33 UserID: 764	Ok I need to know exactly 2 things. What should the outer diameter of the pipe used for the nozzle be? What should the inner diameter of the pipe used for the nozzle be? Currently I have an outer diameter of 3/8 inch and that is too small. __________________ Guns in possession: Speed Loader Double Cross 3000, 2 Speed Loader One Thousands, SS XP 110, Splashzooka, used to have more but they were unfixable.

07-10-2006, 03:13 PM	#24
Silence Administrator Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Virginia Posts: 3,315 UserID: 576	Use the largest ID that isn't larger than that of the actual tubing. The whole point is to reduce the restricted flow, so use something as large as possible--but if it's too large, then you'll have terrible performance. You can use a male adapter and threaded endcaps to change the size to a smaller one at any time. __________________ Forum rules

07-10-2006, 05:16 PM	#25
Lucius Octavion Octavion with an "O" Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 33 UserID: 764	How big should the outer diameter be in order to fit the trigger valve? __________________ Guns in possession: Speed Loader Double Cross 3000, 2 Speed Loader One Thousands, SS XP 110, Splashzooka, used to have more but they were unfixable.

07-11-2006, 07:36 PM	#26
Silence Administrator Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Virginia Posts: 3,315 UserID: 576	I don't know, since I don't actually have a Splashzooka, but common sense should tell you--I really wouldn't know. I guess you could always just use a ball valve of the correct size... __________________ Forum rules

07-11-2006, 08:25 PM	#27
Lucius Octavion Octavion with an "O" Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 33 UserID: 764	Is it possible to use the check valve you just cut off? __________________ Guns in possession: Speed Loader Double Cross 3000, 2 Speed Loader One Thousands, SS XP 110, Splashzooka, used to have more but they were unfixable.

07-11-2006, 08:47 PM	#28
DX Wicked Super Admin Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Easton / New London, CT Posts: 1,579 UserID: 75	Well, it's not a true check valve. It's a pressure release valve, and only opens at a certain pressure. I would just buy a real check valve. __________________ Mess With the Best, Get Soaked Like the Rest!! 2004 Red Sox - World Series Champions 2007 RED SOX - WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONS! 2003 Patriots - Super Bowl Champions 2004 Patriots - Super Bowl Champions 2007 Patriots - God Damnit! If I change my sig, will the world end?

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