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CROC · 04-19-2006, 09:39 PM

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The nozzle features 30X output, meaning this thing puts out 30 times more water than an XP, Max-D, and SoakerTag. The amount of shots per tank is about 4 1/2. One thing that some people may have trouble with is the weight. Although I find the 2000 an easy to carry gun, others might find it hard to hold up and too heavy. Before you think that this review is everything about the 2000, I’ve only told you about half the story. My CPS 2000 is a mark 2.

If its an Mk 2, its only like a 10 or 15x nozzle, compared to the legendary 28.3x nozzle on the Mk 1 (thats right, its not exactly 30x). See this link to isoaker and see for your self. That was a review of the Mk 1 on isoaker. At least I think it has less... With the Mk 1 being the stronger, I would be lead to beleive that the Mk2 has at most 15x, as it was toned down a bit

ZOCCOZ · 04-20-2006, 01:35 AM

15X at the most? What you are suggesting is that the Mk.2 has less output than a CPS 2500. The Mk.1 chamber is NOT twice as long as the Mk.2. That stat is incorrect(but I am curious how you got it), since the output of both Mk.2 and CPS2500 are 21X-22X.

CROC · 05-03-2006, 07:53 PM

Zoccoz- where did I say that the Mk1 chamber is twice the length of the MK.2?
I don't see it in my post anywhere.
If you can point it out to me somewhere in my post, I will happily change it, and by the way, I'd know about the CPS 2000 mk.1 having the shorter but thicker rubber for the PC, and Mk.2 having the longer but thinner tube in the PC.
EDIT: Sorry about that- I was typing quickly so I didn't notice it

Silence · 05-03-2006, 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by CROC

I'd know about the CPS 2000 mk.1 having the shorter but thicker rubber for the PC, and Mk.2 having the longer but thicker tube in the PC.

How can both the Mk.1 and the Mk.2 have the thicker tubes?

By the way, I just noticed this thread; exactly what are you quoting and from which thread? In addition, you should get a moderator to move this to the repairs subforum if it's actually about a CPS 2000 repair.

ZOCCOZ · 05-03-2006, 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by CROC

Zoccoz- where did I say that the Mk1 chamber is twice the length of the MK.2?
I don't see it in my post anywhere.
If you can point it out to me somewhere in my post, I will happily change it, and by the way, I'd know about the CPS 2000 mk.1 having the shorter but thicker rubber for the PC, and Mk.2 having the longer but thicker tube in the PC.

You didn't mention it, but from what you are suggesting that the output is technicaly half on the Mk.2, its what seemed most likely to give you the idea. Otherwhise I don't know why you would think that the Mk.2 shoots 10X-15X.

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If its an Mk 2, its only like a 10 or 15x nozzle, compared to the legendary 28.3x nozzle on the Mk 1 (thats right, its not exactly 30x).

This is the quote I am refering to. The most lilely reason why one would think that the Mk.2 is 15X or less, is because one would think it has half the output of the Mk.1. And since you haven't mentioned yet why or where you got 15X from, it still is the only implied reason for your theory at the moment.

Silence · 05-03-2006, 10:26 PM

I don't think that's neccessarily implied...but there is a delusion somewhere. There's no way the Mk.2 nozzle is only 10-15X, and everybody who owns one will attest that it's at least as good as that of the CPS 2500.

Even 28X to 21X is a huge difference--imagine facing a gun with 33% more output!

CROC · 05-04-2006, 06:49 AM

The fact about the 15x nozzle was from one of my friends.
He told me mk.2 was toned down and had about half of the nozzle rating of the mk.1 (or so) He had said 10-15x nozzle

Hannibal · 05-04-2006, 10:13 AM

Well, he's wrong. The Mk.2 has at least a 22x, and I believe it has as large a nozzle as the Mk.1. Here. Does iSoaker have both a Mk.1 and Mk.2? I could ask him to measure the nozzle diameter of each and post the results. That would be an easy way to find out.

Silence · 05-04-2006, 04:18 PM

Practically every CPS weapon has 15X nozzles. In contrast, every CPS 2000 is known by everybody to have vastly superior firepower (though it's really waterpower

).

Getting back on topic, why is the name of this thread "CPS 2000 repair!" There's absolutely nothing about CPS 2000 repair, and it's in the wrong subforum. And as I said earlier, exactly what are you quoting? I'm completely confused.

Hannibal · 05-04-2006, 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by SilentGuy

Practically every CPS weapon has 15X nozzles. In contrast, every CPS 2000 is known by everybody to have vastly superior firepower (though it's really waterpower

).

Getting back on topic, why is the name of this thread "CPS 2000 repair!" There's absolutely nothing about CPS 2000 repair, and it's in the wrong subforum. And as I said earlier, exactly what are you quoting? I'm completely confused.

I don't believe any CPS has ever had a 15x nozzle. The 3200's 20x, acording to iSoaker, is a 16x, and Aquanexus says the MX's 11.5x is really a 16x, but that's about it.

This topic is probably misnamed.

Silence · 05-04-2006, 06:42 PM

Well, by 15X, I was trying to be really general...in other words, a 15X nozzle on a CPS 2000 wouldn't be out of the ordinary. That was my point.

I think it's actually quite hard to analyze the nozzle size. They are already very small, and measuring equipment besides calipers (I actually have a pair) needs to be used for this kind of thing. In addition, along with the nozzle, output and range depend on the PSI within the soaker.

mr. dude · 05-06-2006, 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Hannibal

Well, he's wrong. The Mk.2 has at least a 22x, and I believe it has as large a nozzle as the Mk.1. Here. Does iSoaker have both a Mk.1 and Mk.2? I could ask him to measure the nozzle diameter of each and post the results. That would be an easy way to find out.

I was actually the one who told CROC that, and I got the information from Isoaker's CPS 2000 review. http://www.isoaker.com/Armoury/soake...akerID=cps2000
look at the boxed MK2 picture, on the box it says 10X

Silence · 05-06-2006, 11:07 PM

Are you referring to the picture at the bottom? That's the only one that has text that is large and legible...

I don't think that is neccessarily referring to the nozzle rating. It could mean 10X the capacity of something, 10X the range (unlikely, though), etc.

EDIT: Thanks for "confessing," though...

mr. dude · 05-07-2006, 12:06 PM

Well, all the better if the MK2 has 20x or higher, I don't mind having either version now

04-20-2006, 01:35 AM	#2
ZOCCOZ Water Gun Scholar/Veteran Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 331 UserID: 454	15X at the most? What you are suggesting is that the Mk.2 has less output than a CPS 2500. The Mk.1 chamber is NOT twice as long as the Mk.2. That stat is incorrect(but I am curious how you got it), since the output of both Mk.2 and CPS2500 are 21X-22X. __________________ POWERMASTERS Soaker Reviews & ZOCCOZ WaterGun Library

05-03-2006, 07:53 PM	#3
CROC Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Ontario, Canada (GTA) Posts: 291 UserID: 569	Zoccoz- where did I say that the Mk1 chamber is twice the length of the MK.2? I don't see it in my post anywhere. If you can point it out to me somewhere in my post, I will happily change it, and by the way, I'd know about the CPS 2000 mk.1 having the shorter but thicker rubber for the PC, and Mk.2 having the longer but thinner tube in the PC. EDIT: Sorry about that- I was typing quickly so I didn't notice it __________________ ~CROC~(c 'rock)n. -The master of ideas, and the occasional mod (Works with mr. dude) Mods: 3xA combat - CPS Turbine - Super Flash Flood - (working on CPH) Last edited by CROC : 05-04-2006 at 06:46 AM.

05-03-2006, 10:26 PM	#6
Silence Administrator Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Virginia Posts: 3,285 UserID: 576	I don't think that's neccessarily implied...but there is a delusion somewhere. There's no way the Mk.2 nozzle is only 10-15X, and everybody who owns one will attest that it's at least as good as that of the CPS 2500. Even 28X to 21X is a huge difference--imagine facing a gun with 33% more output! __________________ Forum rules

05-04-2006, 06:49 AM	#7
CROC Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Ontario, Canada (GTA) Posts: 291 UserID: 569	The fact about the 15x nozzle was from one of my friends. He told me mk.2 was toned down and had about half of the nozzle rating of the mk.1 (or so) He had said 10-15x nozzle __________________ ~CROC~(c 'rock)n. -The master of ideas, and the occasional mod (Works with mr. dude) Mods: 3xA combat - CPS Turbine - Super Flash Flood - (working on CPH)

05-04-2006, 10:13 AM	#8
Hannibal Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Silicon Valley Posts: 51 UserID: 537	Well, he's wrong. The Mk.2 has at least a 22x, and I believe it has as large a nozzle as the Mk.1. Here. Does iSoaker have both a Mk.1 and Mk.2? I could ask him to measure the nozzle diameter of each and post the results. That would be an easy way to find out. __________________ EV Nova: - http://www.ambrosiasw.com/games/evn/ "A CPS 2000 10th anniversary edition! I'll buy two, one to keep, and one to use!" Takes 'em home, opens one, fills it, and pumps it up. -"snap!"- "A Max-D trigger!""

05-04-2006, 04:18 PM	#9
Silence Administrator Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Virginia Posts: 3,285 UserID: 576	Practically every CPS weapon has 15X nozzles. In contrast, every CPS 2000 is known by everybody to have vastly superior firepower (though it's really waterpower ). Getting back on topic, why is the name of this thread "CPS 2000 repair!" There's absolutely nothing about CPS 2000 repair, and it's in the wrong subforum. And as I said earlier, exactly what are you quoting? I'm completely confused. __________________ Forum rules

05-04-2006, 06:42 PM	#11
Silence Administrator Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Virginia Posts: 3,285 UserID: 576	Well, by 15X, I was trying to be really general...in other words, a 15X nozzle on a CPS 2000 wouldn't be out of the ordinary. That was my point. I think it's actually quite hard to analyze the nozzle size. They are already very small, and measuring equipment besides calipers (I actually have a pair) needs to be used for this kind of thing. In addition, along with the nozzle, output and range depend on the PSI within the soaker. __________________ Forum rules

05-06-2006, 11:07 PM	#13
Silence Administrator Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Virginia Posts: 3,285 UserID: 576	Are you referring to the picture at the bottom? That's the only one that has text that is large and legible... I don't think that is neccessarily referring to the nozzle rating. It could mean 10X the capacity of something, 10X the range (unlikely, though), etc. EDIT: Thanks for "confessing," though... __________________ Forum rules

05-07-2006, 12:06 PM	#14
mr. dude Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 127 UserID: 572	Well, all the better if the MK2 has 20x or higher, I don't mind having either version now

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