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stealth · 07-26-2005, 12:56 PM

Hey I just picked up a FF and I've been browsing around here for modding info. You guys have some pretty good info!

Anyway to intro myself.. I'm 20 and in the technology field with background in mechanics, physics and electronics. I usually mod other things like comp case, rc cars (put a weedwacker motor in it and it broke cuz too powerful Hey, that's funny.) and I made a supersoaker into a powerful nerf gun.. now I'm just trying to see what kind of things I can do to this new toy.

If you guys could help me with a few questions, I'd greatly appreciate it:
1. Where is the PC on this gun? I've seen the internals from "hunter"'s picture and a close up on another thread but until I open my own I'm not quite sure where this is hidden

2. when you mod the pc do you wrap the pc in tube or do you put the old tube inside a new tube? etc

3. when you plug the check valve is it possible to stick in a pressure gauge to make sure you don't' over pump? I'm thinking its going to be hard to secure it in there so the pressure doesn't pop it out

Thanks in adv

Jon

NiborDude · 07-26-2005, 01:47 PM

Hey, Welcome to SSC.

1. The PC for the Flash Flood is at the top of the soaker.

2. To collosus your soaker, you place the tubing on the outside of the rubber PC.

3. When you cut out the check valve, I suppose you could stick a pressure gauge inside the valve. But then you would need to make a hole in the casing so that you can see it. I don't think it is really necessary. CPS technology has a method for letting you know when you can't pump anymore. Once this happens, the PC has expanded to its limits and will not expand anymore, no matter how much more you pump.

Hope this helps.

Crashdummy · 07-26-2005, 01:58 PM

You could always cut a coin sized hole in the pc's case to see when it has hit it's limits. For me though, I just get a good feel for the gun so that I know when it will hit it's limits before it does so. A good example is my cps 2700. If counting full pumps, mine takes 24 but just by the feel of the gun when pumping it up I know it's pc is near full.

stealth · 07-26-2005, 02:17 PM

Thanks guys, thats going to get me started

I was thinking... If I could put a mechanism to squeeze the PC on firing the air would be pushed out faster.

What I mean is like an inverted bladder.. think of a second bladder in the same PC that expands making the primary one contract faster. I don't think using air from the first bladder would be a good idea though..

but the concept is that the bladder uses elastic energy to push air out.. ie. if I took out the PC case and squeezed the bladder as it deflated I would be able to force water out faster.. what mechanism can I use to "squeeze" the bladder? *shurgs* maybe I'll fill the PC with butane and hook a BBQ igniter to my trigger...

Found some air pressure amplifiers on google.. wondering how they work:
http://www.process-controls.com/techsales/...r_amplifier.htm
http://www.flw.com/haskel/3.htm

Sorry for any dupes, only did a quick search.

Jon

Ben · 07-26-2005, 03:13 PM

Welcome to Super Soaker Central!

Here's a general rule (it's even mentioned in our rules): don't apologize for silly little things such as not finding something in a search!

As people said before, the Collosus Super Soaker modification does exactly what you wanted to make a modification to do - it "squeezes" the PC. Please read the guide.

07-26-2005, 01:47 PM	#2
NiborDude Retired Moderator Join Date: May 2004 Location: Ridgewood, NJ Posts: 682 UserID: 131	Hey, Welcome to SSC. 1. The PC for the Flash Flood is at the top of the soaker. 2. To collosus your soaker, you place the tubing on the outside of the rubber PC. 3. When you cut out the check valve, I suppose you could stick a pressure gauge inside the valve. But then you would need to make a hole in the casing so that you can see it. I don't think it is really necessary. CPS technology has a method for letting you know when you can't pump anymore. Once this happens, the PC has expanded to its limits and will not expand anymore, no matter how much more you pump. Hope this helps. __________________ <span style='color:EEF2F7'>Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes! -Leonardo Da Vinci

07-26-2005, 01:58 PM	#3
Crashdummy Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Alameda, Ca Posts: 310 UserID: 272	You could always cut a coin sized hole in the pc's case to see when it has hit it's limits. For me though, I just get a good feel for the gun so that I know when it will hit it's limits before it does so. A good example is my cps 2700. If counting full pumps, mine takes 24 but just by the feel of the gun when pumping it up I know it's pc is near full. __________________ http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h2...shdummySig.jpg

07-26-2005, 03:13 PM	#5
Ben Founder Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: College Park, Maryland Posts: 6,020 UserID: 1	Welcome to Super Soaker Central! Here's a general rule (it's even mentioned in our rules): don't apologize for silly little things such as not finding something in a search! As people said before, the Collosus Super Soaker modification does exactly what you wanted to make a modification to do - it "squeezes" the PC. Please read the guide. __________________ Note: I am busy so if I am slow to respond, be patient. email: ben at sscentral dot org / Forum rules / Read this page before emailing me. Do not send me a PM or email with a water gun question if someone else could answer the question. Post at the forums. You will get a response from me along with others' views or ideas. Do not send me a PM or email about reading a certain post unless it's been a few days since you've posted. I try to read every post but do miss some.

07-26-2005, 12:56 PM	#1
stealth Junior member Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 5 UserID: 457	Hey I just picked up a FF and I've been browsing around here for modding info. You guys have some pretty good info! Anyway to intro myself.. I'm 20 and in the technology field with background in mechanics, physics and electronics. I usually mod other things like comp case, rc cars (put a weedwacker motor in it and it broke cuz too powerful Hey, that's funny.) and I made a supersoaker into a powerful nerf gun.. now I'm just trying to see what kind of things I can do to this new toy. If you guys could help me with a few questions, I'd greatly appreciate it: 1. Where is the PC on this gun? I've seen the internals from "hunter"'s picture and a close up on another thread but until I open my own I'm not quite sure where this is hidden 2. when you mod the pc do you wrap the pc in tube or do you put the old tube inside a new tube? etc 3. when you plug the check valve is it possible to stick in a pressure gauge to make sure you don't' over pump? I'm thinking its going to be hard to secure it in there so the pressure doesn't pop it out Thanks in adv Jon

07-26-2005, 02:17 PM	#4
stealth Junior member Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 5 UserID: 457	Thanks guys, thats going to get me started I was thinking... If I could put a mechanism to squeeze the PC on firing the air would be pushed out faster. What I mean is like an inverted bladder.. think of a second bladder in the same PC that expands making the primary one contract faster. I don't think using air from the first bladder would be a good idea though.. but the concept is that the bladder uses elastic energy to push air out.. ie. if I took out the PC case and squeezed the bladder as it deflated I would be able to force water out faster.. what mechanism can I use to "squeeze" the bladder? shurgs maybe I'll fill the PC with butane and hook a BBQ igniter to my trigger... Found some air pressure amplifiers on google.. wondering how they work: http://www.process-controls.com/techsales/...r_amplifier.htm http://www.flw.com/haskel/3.htm Sorry for any dupes, only did a quick search. Jon

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