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Viscen Django · 07-18-2005, 11:35 AM

An idea just struck me, and I was wondering if it would work.

Could you, hypothetically, drill extra holes into the front of a Vaporizer or other piston gun so it has two or more nozzles?

Drenchenator · 07-18-2005, 02:33 PM

You could not drill holes in the front of a Vaporizer to get extra nozzles. The nozzle is attached by a piece of tubing to the pump/piston. This picture of should assist:

As you can see, the nozzle is attached to the pump by a piece of tubing. To make multiple nozzles, you would have to attach a T connector to the tubing that the nozzle is attached to. Then, attach two pieces of vinyl tubing to the ends of the T. Just drill an extra hole and you have a Vaporizer with two nozzles.

Multiple nozzles on a Vaporizer would be useless. The Vaporizer's pump has a volume of only 22 mL (.73 oz.). This is less than 1X output. It would be useless to make it have two or more nozzles because the output would be so tiny it couldn't possible soak anyone.

For a Vaporizer mod that might be worth doing, check out Ben's piston conversion article.

On a side note, please only color for emphasis. I find it harder to read.

NiborDude · 07-18-2005, 03:25 PM

To put it simply, it is possible to make more nozzles, but then what's the point? If you have ever seen or used a CPS 1-3-5, I can tell you, having extra nozzles does little to nothing in a water fight. Good idea though.

Wild Boys · 07-18-2005, 03:49 PM

I have to agree there. The CPS 1-3-5 nozzle wise isn't very good. You waste water while not even hitting anything. This has been said before in the K-Modding article. "More isn't always the merrier". So this phrase in some cases may apply to drilling more nozzles in guns too.

wetmonkey442 · 07-18-2005, 05:18 PM

Most experienced members agree, however, that having all of those nozzles pointing at the same angle (parallel) to each other would have made the 1-3-5 an extremely effective rifle. Especially coupled with some other power modification.

On topic: Drilling holes into the Vaporizer's nozzles is possible, just not practical.

Ben · 07-18-2005, 06:53 PM

I once made a nozzle for my APH with two 1/8" holes so that they shot in parallel. From my experience with it, I would rather have one bigger nozzle for one reason - stream breakup. Smaller streams break up more because there is less water (from a smaller diameter) on the "head" of the stream.

The Vaporizer wouldn't be the water gun to do this modification to also. The Piston Conversion modification is more interesting than useful - the pump was hard to pump and small. If you were going to try something like this out, first do a PVC nozzle selector modification of some sort to a more powerful water gun.

NiborDude · 07-18-2005, 11:37 PM

Isn't a 1/8 nozzle pretty small? I would of gone with a 1/4 or 3/8. I nozzle modded my CPS 1200 so I'll try this out. The best I think it will do is maybe make a riot blast or fan spray.

Ben · 07-19-2005, 08:26 AM

I went for 1/8" because I wanted to stay a little on the safe side as far as space management went. Because the particular endcap I used was curved (not flat like some), if I put the holes out too far on the side, both may shoot unevenly to the side.

1/8" is moderate to me anyway - I consider 1/16" or 5/64" small.

07-18-2005, 11:35 AM	#1
Viscen Django Hraesvelgr -//- Prioritus Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Olympia, Washington Posts: 40 UserID: 404	An idea just struck me, and I was wondering if it would work. Could you, hypothetically, drill extra holes into the front of a Vaporizer or other piston gun so it has two or more nozzles? __________________ -\\-Hraesvelgr-//- Sivayth Prioritus

07-18-2005, 02:33 PM	#2
Drenchenator Administrator Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Maryland Posts: 715 UserID: 320	You could not drill holes in the front of a Vaporizer to get extra nozzles. The nozzle is attached by a piece of tubing to the pump/piston. This picture of should assist: As you can see, the nozzle is attached to the pump by a piece of tubing. To make multiple nozzles, you would have to attach a T connector to the tubing that the nozzle is attached to. Then, attach two pieces of vinyl tubing to the ends of the T. Just drill an extra hole and you have a Vaporizer with two nozzles. Multiple nozzles on a Vaporizer would be useless. The Vaporizer's pump has a volume of only 22 mL (.73 oz.). This is less than 1X output. It would be useless to make it have two or more nozzles because the output would be so tiny it couldn't possible soak anyone. For a Vaporizer mod that might be worth doing, check out Ben's piston conversion article. On a side note, please only color for emphasis. I find it harder to read. __________________ The Drenchenator, also known as Lt. Col. Drench.

07-18-2005, 03:25 PM	#3
NiborDude Retired Moderator Join Date: May 2004 Location: Ridgewood, NJ Posts: 682 UserID: 131	To put it simply, it is possible to make more nozzles, but then what's the point? If you have ever seen or used a CPS 1-3-5, I can tell you, having extra nozzles does little to nothing in a water fight. Good idea though. __________________ <span style='color:EEF2F7'>Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes! -Leonardo Da Vinci

07-18-2005, 05:18 PM	#5
wetmonkey442 Super Moderator Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 256 UserID: 47	Most experienced members agree, however, that having all of those nozzles pointing at the same angle (parallel) to each other would have made the 1-3-5 an extremely effective rifle. Especially coupled with some other power modification. On topic: Drilling holes into the Vaporizer's nozzles is possible, just not practical. __________________ Join the fight! Support water warfare in your area today! Downpour-A Reliable Source of Water Warfare Information

07-18-2005, 06:53 PM	#6
Ben Founder Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Maryland Posts: 5,985 UserID: 1	I once made a nozzle for my APH with two 1/8" holes so that they shot in parallel. From my experience with it, I would rather have one bigger nozzle for one reason - stream breakup. Smaller streams break up more because there is less water (from a smaller diameter) on the "head" of the stream. The Vaporizer wouldn't be the water gun to do this modification to also. The Piston Conversion modification is more interesting than useful - the pump was hard to pump and small. If you were going to try something like this out, first do a PVC nozzle selector modification of some sort to a more powerful water gun. __________________ email: ben at sscentral dot org / Forum rules Read this page before emailing me. Do not send me a PM or email with a water gun question if someone else could answer the question. Post at the forums. You will get a response from me along with others' views or ideas. Do not send me a PM or email about reading a certain post unless it's been a few days since you've posted. I try to read every post.

07-18-2005, 03:49 PM	#4
Wild Boys ... Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 256 UserID: 346	I have to agree there. The CPS 1-3-5 nozzle wise isn't very good. You waste water while not even hitting anything. This has been said before in the K-Modding article. "More isn't always the merrier". So this phrase in some cases may apply to drilling more nozzles in guns too.

07-18-2005, 11:37 PM	#7
NiborDude Retired Moderator Join Date: May 2004 Location: Ridgewood, NJ Posts: 682 UserID: 131	Isn't a 1/8 nozzle pretty small? I would of gone with a 1/4 or 3/8. I nozzle modded my CPS 1200 so I'll try this out. The best I think it will do is maybe make a riot blast or fan spray. __________________ <span style='color:EEF2F7'>Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes! -Leonardo Da Vinci

07-19-2005, 08:26 AM	#8
Ben Founder Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Maryland Posts: 5,985 UserID: 1	I went for 1/8" because I wanted to stay a little on the safe side as far as space management went. Because the particular endcap I used was curved (not flat like some), if I put the holes out too far on the side, both may shoot unevenly to the side. 1/8" is moderate to me anyway - I consider 1/16" or 5/64" small. __________________ email: ben at sscentral dot org / Forum rules Read this page before emailing me. Do not send me a PM or email with a water gun question if someone else could answer the question. Post at the forums. You will get a response from me along with others' views or ideas. Do not send me a PM or email about reading a certain post unless it's been a few days since you've posted. I try to read every post.

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