2005 Soakers

[DX]

Sadly, that's the only thing I'm getting because everything else seems the same. In terms of modding the WW line is lacking. There is the spring mod proposed by me and tried by blaze, but now his Blazer is broken so I'm not sure it's a good idea.

Nibordude attempted to replace a friend's Piranha pc with a pc from my broken 21K. I don't think it worked though, we were last waiting for the glue to dry, then pretty much forgot about the mod.

[Crashdummy]

Originally posted by BlueSmudge@Aug 28 2004, 12:05 AM
I've still never seen a Water Warriors gun in stores. Where are/where they selling?

Same think over here. The only think I've seen is wasps in toys r us.

[Ben]

Nibordude attempted to replace a friend's Piranha pc with a pc from my broken 21K. I don't think it worked though, we were last waiting for the glue to dry, then pretty much forgot about the mod.

Sounds promising, but I'd just rather use a 21k than a Piranha 21k. The WW line has an extremely small internal diamter.

[Soakologist]

Here is some info regarding the 2005 Water Warriors Guns, as according to "Big Bee," the CEO of Buzz Bee Toys from the iScF.

Gremlin--piston action addition to Wasp
Crossfire--piston action, rotating nozzles
5th dimension--4 piston action guns that can be assembled into a larger "5th unit"
Stinger--Air pressure addition to Hornet and Cricket addition of belt clip device
Black Widow-- Returns in new colors
Firefly & Yellow Jacket -- Return in new colors
Lightning & Piranha -- New Colors and added carry strap
Blazer-- Returns in new colors with longer strap, and bigger nozzles
Aqua-Pak-- 200oz capacity backpack canon

Aqua Master Pre-Charge System (TV advertised)
Argon- mechanical pressure gauge with pre-charge system
Xenon- electronic pressure gauge with pre-charge system
Krypton- electronic pressure gauge with pre-charge system

[Soaker Leader]

Off topic What is the iScF site name, because I just find karate and stuff.

[Ben]

The info was posted here anyway (twice actually), no need to go there to get it.

However the site url is http://www.isoaker.com

[Soakologist]

The iScF stands for The iSoaker.com Forums.

And I wish you guys would be more optimistic. The Blazer w/ bigger nozzles sounds like a giant step up.

[Storm]

Do they plan on adding a new nozzle. Or keeping 3 nozzles and increasing all of their sizes.

[Soakologist]

The Blazer had FIVE nozzles. And I think that they're just making them bigger, not adding more.

[Ben]

And I wish you guys would be more optimistic. The Blazer w/ bigger nozzles sounds like a giant step up.

Not really. In fact I am very much under the opinion that Water Warriors CPS guns are inferior, which is completely undeniable from a scientific standpoint. Their design is CPS, however it also does NOT have a straight path, doing "wonders" for stream lamination. Also, they appear to have a small internal diameter, but then again, most non-homemade guns do.

They also are practically unmoddable. Blaze tried the spring-mod, with mixed results. It did increase power, however, it also broke his Blazer even though he did not do a CVF. I do know they weren't designed for modding, but that won't stop people, and neither will not supporting sites that have mods.

Diaphram tech is just an alternative to traditional CPS. The Cylindrical and Spherical varieties are vastly superior. It is sad that Hasbro is no longer using CPS technology, and it also is good that another company is using a similar technology.

Also, I havelocitve seen Lightnings in battle, and if they basically are Blazers minus a PC, then this isn't going to be as good as you could hope. Both had a strange problem with water shooting out of the top of the chamber. I believe that however was not a problem, I think some water just got into the PC and as it expanded it shot it out. They weren't exactly the most powerful either, and you can tell still with smaller nozzles. It just takes some comparing of the velocities, and it wasn't anything special.

Then again, I have felt that the WW line as a whole was over-rated, so don't listen to me. :P

[Soakologist]

You have the right to hold those beliefs, but I don't think we ought to make judg(e)ments about the WW Line of 2005 until we see it.

[Ben]

They're going to use the same technology. Except maybe they're use that other stuff Big Bee mentioned long ago about the less pumping. I'll dig that up, that would be a plus. I always could redo those systems I had trouble with anyway.

[Soakologist]

Those sounded totarry cool. I'm definitely purchasing Argons, Kryptons, and Xenons.

[Ben]

Hmm, can't seem to find the original post about that (you know, the one at WWN about the less pumping system for 2005). However, we don't need to because we know what they are already.

I also read about the gun to be sold in the sporting goods stores. And the one that used batteries. We somewhat shunned those ideas though, not sure about them being part of the 2005 line.

http://www.waterwar.net/cgi-bin/ikonboard/...Print;f=1;t=264

[Super Sonic]

I also read about the gun to be sold in the sporting goods stores. And the one that used batteries. We somewhat shunned those ideas though, not sure about them being part of the 2005 line.

Don't ever buy anything with batteries! I bought a Tsunami XX, Suposedly the most powerful battery operrated water gun. It barely gets over 10 feet! The stream is so thin you would be better off using those keychaind cps models. ( I'm not stretching the truth about that either) I only used it once in a small water fight. And the batteries went dead on me. Luckily I had my MXL to save me. Unless your buying it for a really small kid or for soaker tag, don't waste your time or your money.