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Dark Elite · 07-26-2004, 02:03 PM

My Max-D 6000's trigger valve has given out. I have tried EVERYTHING I can think of to fix it, but I cannot get it to close properly.

OK, so what's happening is, under a full-pressure shot, when the trigger is pulled the valve jams half-open and won't close. The trigger no longer has any input on whether the valve opens or closes, it simply jams half-open. Which is totally useless. Can anyone help me on how to repair this?

Drewsky92 · 07-26-2004, 02:34 PM

This happened to my friend's Max-D 6000 (and I fixed it). Did you leave the gun preasureized for overnight? This is what my friend did. It is a pernament problem (unless you somehow get another ball valve). All you have to do is pump it up two-thirds, not all the way.

Dark Elite · 07-27-2004, 04:26 AM

No, I haven't mistreated it in any way. I have worked out that over two-thirds pressure knocks the valve off and jams it half-open. I'll see what I can do about another ball valve.

vaporizer28 · 07-27-2004, 09:32 AM

Replace the trigger valve spring with a really tight rubber band.

I did that w. my MD2K, and it works like new, exept for the hard trigger pull. <_<

EDIT: works 4 me!

Dark Elite · 07-29-2004, 11:47 AM

Can't do that. If I put a rubber band in it, the band holds the mechanism forwards, closed, and at full trigger pull the valve can only open halfway. Anyone with any other ideas

BlueMage · 08-10-2004, 11:02 PM

I have the exact same stupid problem. I've tried rubber bands, they don't work at all.

Ben · 08-11-2004, 07:27 AM

Welcome to SSC.

That stuff doesn't work all the time. And you have to get it centered right.

http://www.geocities.com/dryhumper70/Mods.html

It might only work on CPS valves too, possibly due to the size? I don't know.

Godzillasoaker65 · 08-31-2004, 08:07 PM

did you try an xps because on my friends xp 310 we did an xps and a balloon poped of into the triger valve holding it open.It took 2 months to figure out <_<

BlueSmudge · 09-01-2004, 12:33 AM

This happened to my 21k. Look for the topic on soakthis.com
Blaze and Doom and a bunch of other people gave me horrible advice. Like replacing the spring. Putting a rubber band on, putting my F-ing finger over the nozzle and pressurizing it?...
You can't close it right?
Basically, what you have to do it get a new trigger valve from that pile of broken soakers. or from a soaker you never use.
If you have no trigger valves lieing around, you will need to replace it with a ball valve. I feel sorry for you, as this problem is very devistating, knowing there is no fix. Only replacement.

NiborDude · 09-01-2004, 01:13 AM

Whoa, whoa, whoa. Bad advice. Do the small, less strenuos ideas first, and then if nothing else works do the replacement. I've done the rubber band thing to several soakers and its worked most of the time. The one exception was Dux's second 21k.

BlueSmudge · 09-01-2004, 02:34 AM

Dude, its not the same problem. I've had the problem your talking about. It happened before I joined the forums. I used a completely different method, but thats not important. These are two different problems. One is a problem outside the valve. (the spring er something) This is inside the valve (its broken unless you want to saw it open and take a look around)
Replacment is the easiest option. Dark Elite is welcome to saw open the valve, but I just recommend replacing it.

Dark Elite · 09-01-2004, 03:39 AM

OK, thanks guys, but remember this problem is on a Max-D trigger valve, and it is VERY weak. Putting a rubber band on it in ANY possible configuration just jams it closed. Which is even worse. Holding my finger over the nozzle doesn't help, because at full pressure the valve opens only halfway. With a rubber band on the mechanism holding it closed, it just stays closed, even with a pitifully weak rubber band, at full trigger pull. What I really need is a way to replace it, but I have no idea how to do that.

Oh yeah, off topic, I have a CPS1500 a mate gave me to try and fix, the pump piston has snapped into two. I'll try to sort it out myself now, but if I can't see any way to fix it I'll ask you guys

BlueSmudge · 09-01-2004, 03:59 AM

Buy a max-D 2000 and replace the trigger valves. depending on the setup (I Don't have a Max-D 6000) it should be possible.

About the CPS 1500. Thats so sad. A 1500 should never be out of action. Check out the tech section of soakthis and look for the pump reinforcment article in the modification section. Do the same thing, but do a internal epoxy job to the crack also.

Peace out B)

Dark Elite · 09-03-2004, 07:45 AM

too right the 1500 is sad. That's the second of my mates who's destroyed a 1500. Read the topic I made on it and see if you can come up with anything. (CPS1500 Repair [Help!])
About the replacement, the MD2000's trigger valve would just break as well, maybe even faster as it would be designed for lower pressure. Plus, I have never EVER seen an MD2000 for sale, plus it'd be a waste of money. Maybe I'll rip the pump of my 6000 and use that in the busted 1500... They look about the same size...

07-26-2004, 02:03 PM	#1
Dark Elite Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Leicestershire, England Posts: 228 UserID: 255	My Max-D 6000's trigger valve has given out. I have tried EVERYTHING I can think of to fix it, but I cannot get it to close properly. OK, so what's happening is, under a full-pressure shot, when the trigger is pulled the valve jams half-open and won't close. The trigger no longer has any input on whether the valve opens or closes, it simply jams half-open. Which is totally useless. Can anyone help me on how to repair this? __________________ Visit <span style='font-size:14pt;line-height:100%'><span style='color:red'>Sam's Supercars <span style='font-size:8pt;line-height:100%'><span style='color:orange'><span style='font-family:Arial'><u>My Weaponry</u> CPS2100 (Thank You King Soaker!) 1 Liquidator/Pressurizer 1 Max-D 6000 1 XP310 w/my own power mod and 8 balloon XPS mod 2 piston-pistols (backup)

07-27-2004, 04:26 AM	#3
Dark Elite Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Leicestershire, England Posts: 228 UserID: 255	No, I haven't mistreated it in any way. I have worked out that over two-thirds pressure knocks the valve off and jams it half-open. I'll see what I can do about another ball valve. __________________ Visit <span style='font-size:14pt;line-height:100%'><span style='color:red'>Sam's Supercars <span style='font-size:8pt;line-height:100%'><span style='color:orange'><span style='font-family:Arial'><u>My Weaponry</u> CPS2100 (Thank You King Soaker!) 1 Liquidator/Pressurizer 1 Max-D 6000 1 XP310 w/my own power mod and 8 balloon XPS mod 2 piston-pistols (backup)

07-27-2004, 09:32 AM	#4
vaporizer28 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Somewhere in Michigan Posts: 187 UserID: 181	Replace the trigger valve spring with a really tight rubber band. I did that w. my MD2K, and it works like new, exept for the hard trigger pull. <_< EDIT: works 4 me! __________________ ^This was made by Superstormer. What, do you think it got here on its own?

07-29-2004, 11:47 AM	#5
Dark Elite Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Leicestershire, England Posts: 228 UserID: 255	Can't do that. If I put a rubber band in it, the band holds the mechanism forwards, closed, and at full trigger pull the valve can only open halfway. Anyone with any other ideas __________________ Visit <span style='font-size:14pt;line-height:100%'><span style='color:red'>Sam's Supercars <span style='font-size:8pt;line-height:100%'><span style='color:orange'><span style='font-family:Arial'><u>My Weaponry</u> CPS2100 (Thank You King Soaker!) 1 Liquidator/Pressurizer 1 Max-D 6000 1 XP310 w/my own power mod and 8 balloon XPS mod 2 piston-pistols (backup)

08-10-2004, 11:02 PM	#6
BlueMage Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 21 UserID: 277	I have the exact same stupid problem. I've tried rubber bands, they don't work at all. __________________

07-26-2004, 02:34 PM	#2
Drewsky92 Senior Member Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 151 UserID: 139	This happened to my friend's Max-D 6000 (and I fixed it). Did you leave the gun preasureized for overnight? This is what my friend did. It is a pernament problem (unless you somehow get another ball valve). All you have to do is pump it up two-thirds, not all the way.

08-11-2004, 07:27 AM	#7
Ben Founder Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Maryland Posts: 5,975 UserID: 1	Welcome to SSC. That stuff doesn't work all the time. And you have to get it centered right. http://www.geocities.com/dryhumper70/Mods.html It might only work on CPS valves too, possibly due to the size? I don't know. __________________ email: ben at sscentral dot org / Forum rules Read this page before emailing me. Do not send me a PM or email with a water gun question if someone else could answer the question. Post at the forums. You will get a response from me along with others' views or ideas. Do not send me a PM or email about reading a certain post unless it's been a few days since you've posted. I try to read every post.

08-31-2004, 08:07 PM	#8
Godzillasoaker65 Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Springfield ma. which one do the simpsons live in? Posts: 259 UserID: 288	did you try an xps because on my friends xp 310 we did an xps and a balloon poped of into the triger valve holding it open.It took 2 months to figure out <_< __________________ Soak, or be soaked that is the question!

09-01-2004, 12:33 AM	#9
BlueSmudge Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 886 UserID: 97	This happened to my 21k. Look for the topic on soakthis.com Blaze and Doom and a bunch of other people gave me horrible advice. Like replacing the spring. Putting a rubber band on, putting my F-ing finger over the nozzle and pressurizing it?... You can't close it right? Basically, what you have to do it get a new trigger valve from that pile of broken soakers. or from a soaker you never use. If you have no trigger valves lieing around, you will need to replace it with a ball valve. I feel sorry for you, as this problem is very devistating, knowing there is no fix. Only replacement. __________________ -------------------------------------------------------------- BlueSoak.net --------------------------------------------------------------

09-01-2004, 01:13 AM	#10
NiborDude Retired Moderator Join Date: May 2004 Location: Ridgewood, NJ Posts: 682 UserID: 131	Whoa, whoa, whoa. Bad advice. Do the small, less strenuos ideas first, and then if nothing else works do the replacement. I've done the rubber band thing to several soakers and its worked most of the time. The one exception was Dux's second 21k. __________________ <span style='color:EEF2F7'>Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes! -Leonardo Da Vinci

09-01-2004, 02:34 AM	#11
BlueSmudge Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 886 UserID: 97	Dude, its not the same problem. I've had the problem your talking about. It happened before I joined the forums. I used a completely different method, but thats not important. These are two different problems. One is a problem outside the valve. (the spring er something) This is inside the valve (its broken unless you want to saw it open and take a look around) Replacment is the easiest option. Dark Elite is welcome to saw open the valve, but I just recommend replacing it. __________________ -------------------------------------------------------------- BlueSoak.net --------------------------------------------------------------

09-01-2004, 03:39 AM	#12
Dark Elite Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Leicestershire, England Posts: 228 UserID: 255	OK, thanks guys, but remember this problem is on a Max-D trigger valve, and it is VERY weak. Putting a rubber band on it in ANY possible configuration just jams it closed. Which is even worse. Holding my finger over the nozzle doesn't help, because at full pressure the valve opens only halfway. With a rubber band on the mechanism holding it closed, it just stays closed, even with a pitifully weak rubber band, at full trigger pull. What I really need is a way to replace it, but I have no idea how to do that. Oh yeah, off topic, I have a CPS1500 a mate gave me to try and fix, the pump piston has snapped into two. I'll try to sort it out myself now, but if I can't see any way to fix it I'll ask you guys __________________ Visit <span style='font-size:14pt;line-height:100%'><span style='color:red'>Sam's Supercars <span style='font-size:8pt;line-height:100%'><span style='color:orange'><span style='font-family:Arial'><u>My Weaponry</u> CPS2100 (Thank You King Soaker!) 1 Liquidator/Pressurizer 1 Max-D 6000 1 XP310 w/my own power mod and 8 balloon XPS mod 2 piston-pistols (backup)

09-01-2004, 03:59 AM	#13
BlueSmudge Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 886 UserID: 97	Buy a max-D 2000 and replace the trigger valves. depending on the setup (I Don't have a Max-D 6000) it should be possible. About the CPS 1500. Thats so sad. A 1500 should never be out of action. Check out the tech section of soakthis and look for the pump reinforcment article in the modification section. Do the same thing, but do a internal epoxy job to the crack also. Peace out B) __________________ -------------------------------------------------------------- BlueSoak.net --------------------------------------------------------------

09-03-2004, 07:45 AM	#14
Dark Elite Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Leicestershire, England Posts: 228 UserID: 255	too right the 1500 is sad. That's the second of my mates who's destroyed a 1500. Read the topic I made on it and see if you can come up with anything. (CPS1500 Repair [Help!]) About the replacement, the MD2000's trigger valve would just break as well, maybe even faster as it would be designed for lower pressure. Plus, I have never EVER seen an MD2000 for sale, plus it'd be a waste of money. Maybe I'll rip the pump of my 6000 and use that in the busted 1500... They look about the same size... __________________ Visit <span style='font-size:14pt;line-height:100%'><span style='color:red'>Sam's Supercars <span style='font-size:8pt;line-height:100%'><span style='color:orange'><span style='font-family:Arial'><u>My Weaponry</u> CPS2100 (Thank You King Soaker!) 1 Liquidator/Pressurizer 1 Max-D 6000 1 XP310 w/my own power mod and 8 balloon XPS mod 2 piston-pistols (backup)

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