Constant Pressure streams not constant

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Post by The dark ANNIHILATOR » Tue Dec 16, 2003 11:49 am

Im working on my new soaker website at the moment, and while I was taking pictures, I noticed a difference of how the streams look and move through the air. So I put them next to each other as a comparison:



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As you see, the CPS 2500 stream is only very thick at the beginning, but becomes thiner.

The CPS 3200 and CPS 1500 streams remain their thickness through the whole shot.

The Monster X stream is geting thicker and thiner and thicker and thiner again through the whole shot. Also surprisingly, the 11.5X stream of the MX looks closer to the CPS 3200 20X stream than the CPS 1500 10X stream. Also, they are all shot from the same distance, so there is no optical illusion.
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Post by superstormer » Tue Dec 16, 2003 8:14 pm

Those pics are really cool.
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Post by Monsoon » Tue Dec 16, 2003 10:58 pm

Niiiice pics B) I can't wait either
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Post by The dark ANNIHILATOR » Wed Dec 17, 2003 12:21 am

I will also add to my website a shot of the CPS 2100, CPS 1000, MXL and probably also a shot of the XP 150 and the Classic 100.
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Post by toothpickmatt » Wed Dec 17, 2003 8:07 pm

nice actction pics man. what kinda shutter speed did you use for those? they turned out pritty good. they also demonstrate why soakers can never get great range. the stream of water just gets pulled apart too much by the air that is in it's way. as for rifleing em... honestly it's not going to help much if any... the air is still going to be there and still going to pull your stream apart. it may help a bit, but honesly not much of a notice able difference.

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Post by The dark ANNIHILATOR » Thu Dec 18, 2003 8:21 am

what kinda shutter speed did you use for those?
I actually don't know. I just set it on automatic standard feature. That way the camera does most of the work. I just have to hold it right to get the main angle and position.
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Post by superstormer » Thu Dec 18, 2003 10:25 pm

Originally posted by The dark ANNIHILATOR@Dec 16 2003, 06:49 AM
Also surprisingly, the 11.5X stream of the MX looks closer to the CPS 3200 20X stream than the CPS 1500 10X stream. Also, they are all shot from the same distance, so there is no optical illusion.
iSoaker.com says that the MX(2001) is 13.6oz./sec, that the CPS 1500 is 10.4oz./sec, and that the CPS 3200 is 16oz./sec. So the MX(2002) actually is closer to the CPS 3200.
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Post by The dark ANNIHILATOR » Thu Dec 18, 2003 10:41 pm

Aquanexus said something similar. The MX and MXL 11.5X nozzles perform like 15X nozzles. This would mean that the 11.5X dual nozzle on the MXL works like a 30X. Also, if Im not mistaken, the first part of the 20X CPS 2500 shot performs like a 25X nozzle. As you see on the CPS stream, the beginning part of the stream is much thicker than the CPS 3200.
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Post by shadowstalker » Sat Dec 20, 2003 11:57 pm

I may have to do with the lengh of the pipeing in the gun
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Post by superstormer » Tue Dec 30, 2003 1:02 am

When they say "Constant Pressure" they don't mean that the thickness of the stream is constant, but that the range is constant. Which means it won't dribble like air pressure guns.
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Post by The dark ANNIHILATOR » Wed Dec 31, 2003 2:56 am

Fair enough. But you are taking the title to literaly. I just wanted to point out the irony of the name and the way the streams actually looked like. "Constant" means multiple things due to word association. The CPS 1000 pics look very odd since it has a lot of air breaks and it actually dribbles similar to an Air Pressure soaker. It's just the raw pressure that makes it less obvious. CPS soakers just don't have that severe drop off. So yeah, you are right. But CPS soakers do dribble and have air breaks. Personaly I would prefer the name "Automatic Preston" over "Constant Pressure System".
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Post by Neuro » Wed Dec 31, 2003 3:19 am

uhh preston? that's a name, I think you mean piston.
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Post by The dark ANNIHILATOR » Wed Dec 31, 2003 4:09 am

Yep. My mistake. "Automatic Piston" it is.
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Post by SSCBen » Wed Dec 31, 2003 2:32 pm

My CPS 1000 has a slow(but not as slow as XP) drop off in the last second.

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Post by Neuro » Wed Dec 31, 2003 3:34 pm

both of the spherical cps guns I own do that. I don't remember my 2500 or 3200 ever doing it though, and those are piston.
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