Delagation of responsability

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Post by Commander_Gaunt » Tue Aug 17, 2004 2:21 pm

Have you ever been in a situation where there are simply too many people to command effectively by yourself?

The obvious solution when in this situation, is to delegate responsabilities to "sergeants". The way this is done is very effective and simple. Three "sergeants" are chosen, one HWO, one assault specialist and one recon/sniper. The HWO sergeant has the job of protecting the commander, who can move around and relay his commands to the two other sergeants. The assualt specialist sergeant takes the remaining HWOs and other assualt troops or grunts and leads the attack. The final recon/sniper sergeant takes all the field engineers, snipers and recon officers and sets traps, snipes and does all the sneaky, annoying stuff.

If you use this method, remember to always have a bigger assualt section or you will be wiped out. The most men a sergeant should control should be around 6 so if you have more, the sergeant turns into a captain/major/whatever he wants to be called, and then delegates his own responsabilities.
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Post by Jadefalcon09 » Tue Aug 17, 2004 3:18 pm

While it is a good tactic to trust sub-coordinates with some power, there are a few flaws in the stratedgy. The Commander's positions can never be ruled out, and people 90% of the time won't have fun if they are ordered around by say, a HW officer with more authority. Giving everyone on the squadron powers to use the best of in certain situations is a much better tactic. Saying
Stay here, guard the area and Don't move on your grunt life
is not as good as
guard the perimeter, fight to your best ability to hold them off for us
But back to the point. Soldiers on the field with a some power can use it in certain situations in battle can make good, logic descisions that can win the battle.

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Post by Commander_Gaunt » Tue Aug 17, 2004 8:25 pm

The commander obviously holds most power, but in my team, the recon officer isn't really commanded, he is kind of given guidelines. So if more recon officers are present, it is obvious that one should lead the recon and snipers. Also in my team, my friend is the commander, but I take command during a charge, so it is obvious that I should be "commander of the attack".
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Post by DX » Fri Aug 20, 2004 5:24 pm

Have you ever been in a situation where there are simply too many people to command effectively by yourself?

The obvious solution when in this situation, is to delegate responsabilities to "sergeants". The way this is done is very effective and simple. Three "sergeants" are chosen, one HWO, one assault specialist and one recon/sniper. The HWO sergeant has the job of protecting the commander, who can move around and relay his commands to the two other sergeants. The assualt specialist sergeant takes the remaining HWOs and other assualt troops or grunts and leads the attack. The final recon/sniper sergeant takes all the field engineers, snipers and recon officers and sets traps, snipes and does all the sneaky, annoying stuff.

If you use this method, remember to always have a bigger assualt section or you will be wiped out. The most men a sergeant should control should be around 6 so if you have more, the sergeant turns into a captain/major/whatever he wants to be called, and then delegates his own responsabilities.
I would definately trust other team members with power, giving them the ability to make decisions that will contribute to a victory for the team. They need to be able to think on their own in some situations as if there was no commander. But a glaring weakness of the normal team is that "The HWO sergeant has the job of protecting the commander." The commander should be well able to protect himself with light but more powerful weapon(s). Don't give your commander a pistol, give him an XP or CPS with the chance to survive the fight without needing "protection." Also, If you divide your team based on positions, the enemy could mirror you and using special tactics destroy your team piecemeal. I won't get deep into that, though, because most teams are not capable of such tactics and discipline. "Have you ever been in a situation where there are simply too many people to command effectively by yourself? " You could simply appoint more "commanders" therefore your other teammates would have to listen to them.
But if your enemy isn't that smart or strong, this method will probably be successful.
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Post by Commander_Gaunt » Fri Aug 20, 2004 6:10 pm

But a glaring weakness of the normal team is that "The HWO sergeant has the job of protecting the commander." The commander should be well able to protect himself with light but more powerful weapon(s). Don't give your commander a pistol, give him an XP or CPS with the chance to survive the fight without needing "protection."
Of course the commander won't have a pistol, but leaving him on his own is a bit stupid as he is a major target. However he should be able to move and join different "platoons". Maybe the bodyguard shouldn't be a HWO because they need to move fast, but hey, a good HWO should be able to move with a big gun!
Also, If you divide your team based on positions, the enemy could mirror you and using special tactics destroy your team piecemeal. I won't get deep into that, though, because most teams are not capable of such tactics and discipline
Um... How has division been based on positions? All thats happened is the Snipers and scouts have been pulled together and the grunts and assualt people have been organised for a better attack. Also the Commander has a bodyguard for when he moves between postions, if anything, the team is less spaced out.
"Have you ever been in a situation where there are simply too many people to command effectively by yourself? " You could simply appoint more "commanders" therefore your other teammates would have to listen to them.
It's kind of important to have a hierarchy, otherwise the multiple commanders won't argue about what to do!
But if your enemy isn't that smart or strong, this method will probably be successful.
So it's better to have an unorganised, arguing rabble charging as a mob?!!! Thanks but I think I'll stick to my way!
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Post by DX » Fri Aug 20, 2004 6:36 pm

Of course the commander won't have a pistol, but leaving him on his own is a bit stupid as he is a major target. However he should be able to move and join different "platoons". Maybe the bodyguard shouldn't be a HWO because they need to move fast, but hey, a good HWO should be able to move with a big gun!
It's kind of important to have a hierarchy, otherwise the multiple commanders won't argue about what to do!
Maybe its better to have a chain of command, so the original commander remains the most important. However I think a split-2 commander team would work better.
A commander should be able to defend himself and get support, not protection, from other teammates.
Um... How has division been based on positions? All thats happened is the Snipers and scouts have been pulled together and the grunts and assualt people have been organised for a better attack.
Well they could break like that and use their assult people against your light forces, while having their light forces use guerilla tactics against your assault forces. Sorry, I just think up really complicated senarios that most likely could not be coordinated. ;)
So it's better to have an unorganised, arguing rabble charging as a mob?!!!
Well my team is made up of all friends and they aren't fools, so rigid organization is not needed.
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Post by Commander_Gaunt » Sat Aug 21, 2004 9:29 am

However I think a split-2 commander team would work better.
Maybe, have one with the recon group and 1 with the assualt teams, then they would be protected better, but two-way radios would be needed...
Well they could break like that and use their assult people against your light forces, while having their light forces use guerilla tactics against your assault forces. Sorry, I just think up really complicated senarios that most likely could not be coordinated.
If that happens, then why can't you do the same, use guerilla tactics with your light forces against their assualt, and then charge their light forces with your assualt.
Well my team is made up of all friends and they aren't fools, so rigid organization is not needed.
Maybe not, be it helps with most squads.
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Post by Belisaurius » Sat Aug 28, 2004 9:11 pm

I think that teams should have a 1:1 ratio of administration personel and a regular combatant. This way, you can very easily switch in and out of guerrila teams of 2 to battle lines and large scale formations and then back again and there will always be someone in charge close at hand for regular troops. Orders can be relayed personally and changes in tactics and stuff like that can happen faster because of the better administrative control.

I am a co-commander of a 2 commander team and there are several benefits in my opinion. myself and my C-CO help check each other's more radical ideas during the off season (like underground bunkers). we each control 1/2 of the mobilized forces at any one battle. if one of us is sniped by the enemy, the other is already cleared to take control of the commander-less forces. When the rest of the team starts to make noise about administration, we can back each other up. we are encouraged to come to a consensus about our ideas if possible and can very easily cooperate in deployment and combat. because we employ 1/2 the team in administration, we can also both fight just as easily in groups of 2 as we can in lines or formations or units. we are all friends so there are no rivalries that could get in the way of effective administration.

we provide much of the driving effort behind our group. the majority of forts, trails, and battlefield improvements are initiated or carried out by the two of us, at least to date.

**EDIT** - the two of us have equal power, and the xo's follow us (one for each commander), and then just staff officers. we have no official arsenal and actually tend to run into weapons shortages at battles. if we ever get a decent thrower on our team, we are going to organize specialized grenadiers with light weapons and waterballoons along with a few R&D items we've designed to help with waterballoon range and speed and stuff like that. auxiliary light skirmishers would be used on the flanks, rear, and to screen ahead of formations and marching troops but would not be paired for guerrila combat considering that's what they will be doing along the flanks, rear, and front of marching troops, formations, etc.
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