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onlydecoppi1991
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Post by onlydecoppi1991 » Thu Jul 01, 2004 1:50 pm

I need help, we are having a big water fight July 10 or 11.
Ill describe the stuff in the Help Us. Help you topic wise.

1. They have 6 people and more I Don't know of. maybe less than half are expierenced, and thier commander is unknown...

2. Everybodys team has no guns yet, some may have them and some Don't.

3. The base that we have hold of is one thats right beside a river, and has a ditch infront of it. Its also on a slight hill. There are no other bases that I have spotted out.

4. My forces have 3... only three so far, but those three are me and my 2 other friends. We are specialists though. Quite expierienced(sp).

5. My armory so far consists of a imitation gun called the '2003' (it works quite well though) and a vaporizer. Im getting a CPS 2100 most likely.

6. The rules are still undergoing disscusion. The terrain is about a 1/8 or a 1/4 of a Kilometre. Its mostly plains with a road on the right bank with a river on the right and high grass or a hill to the left for about half the field.

Its when you are soaked front and back that you are out...

No water stations, so we have to bring our own water. And the enemy has barely any water bottles. I myself have 8 litres of water to carry around.

Thanks
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"What difference does it make to the dead, the orphans, and the homeless, whether the mad destruction is wrought under the name of totalitarianism or the holy name of liberty and democracy?" -Gandhi

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Post by USSA » Thu Jul 01, 2004 3:17 pm

1. your outnumbered so use defensive/ guerrilla tactics
2. if you don't have guns try to scrounge some up (Sports authority sells 2100's for a reported $7 mine sold em for $10
3. Fill the ditch with water mines and use the river to your advantage... make sure they have to pass through it as it will get them wet. Also make sure you are on top of the hill.
4. Try to get some people from school to come (or camp since school is out). In short draft some friends.
5. what are the statistics of the 2003 and my recomendation would be to hit sports authority (they had 4100's at mine)
6. U sure about the 1/8th kilometer thing cause that is really small for a battle with up to 10 people... (410 ft) Try for 1hk because your outnumbered... this if used correctly could really play into your favor.


You don't need to worry about water.... use the river thats what its there for. Oh and since they lack this river you may want to try to lay siege to thieir base... if they use all their water you can waltz in and kill em wiht dime store pistols

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Post by onlydecoppi1991 » Thu Jul 01, 2004 6:32 pm

I live in canada, so there are no sports athorities.

CPS 2100 costs $30 at canadian tire

The stats of the 2003 is 1.25 litre capacity,
range is about 25 feet level and 30-36 maximum
Its not to big
shot time is only if its level it shoots for a LONG time about 30 seconds + no change in range much
its nozzle is tiny but enough for damage
it discharges very conservative
but if you fill it 100% it leaks a bit from the tank.
Its a really good gun for the price. $9 Canadian got it last year.

The field is quite big though its likemaybe 1/4, 1/2, or 3/4 or a kilometer because I was there a couple hours ago.
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-me

"A country cannot simultaneously prepare and prevent war."
-Albert Einstein

"What difference does it make to the dead, the orphans, and the homeless, whether the mad destruction is wrought under the name of totalitarianism or the holy name of liberty and democracy?" -Gandhi

Armory= Blazer, Vaporizer, 2003

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Post by Sky_T_219 » Sat Jul 03, 2004 2:08 am

I would recommend getting some more weapondry to start... you can never have enough. I don't use the extra's all the time. But it's nice to have back ups you can pull out quickly that are already pumped up. For example I found a gun at a dollar store that can shoot 38 feet but it's one where you have to have a bucket of water. I find that to be great defense if loaded. Just set a cooler of water aside and buy like 5 of them. I bought 4, I load them all and set them aside. Once enemy comes I pull out one after another, and it can match most of my opponents range. Once I acted as if those were my only weapons. So once out I acted like I was panicing, so my opponent charged. Then I pulled out my fully pumped CPS 10k and soaked them out of the game, not taking too much of hit my self. It was quite funny :D !

Anyway, scout out the terrian and try to find an enemy base. I like to look for good spots to hide before and mark them on a map or something, then point them out to your teamates.

Like USSA said, use gurilla tactics since your outnumbered.

I'd also recommend spending extra time fortifing your entire base and making sure it is almost impossible to enter from outside. It'd take along time to get it like that, but I'd recommend just doing it for like and hour or so. Setting up mines would be good.

Recruit some more people would be good too, even if they suck! They could draw enemy fire, and you could fire. And no one (besides 7 or youger) would not fire at an opponent near by, so almost anyone could help. Make sure they are not for enemy tho.

Your pretty well set if you have a good base. I think if you have a good enough base you could take them. Also use stealth, it's your best ally!
WOW - longest post I've wrote...
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Post by onlydecoppi1991 » Sat Jul 03, 2004 2:16 am

I understand what your saying. The whole place is public property and so we can't build anything... or so they think. We might build sort of a tent out of: wood, a tarp, and some big metal sheets. Im trying to cut down the weight of my guns so I can move freely to scout and preform stealth combat.

The thing that weighs me down is water containers, I need them for on the go.
My team has gone from 3 to 5 or 6 members right now. I can fool my opponent very easily.

Alright I just thought of something. :D
The path goes like a straight line but there is a grass path that leads to abbandoned tracks, so we can build a base there. Hopefully.
My armory increases quickly every 2 weeks. I get allowence because I can't get a job(I'm 12)
But thanks for all the info.

Edit: I killed the dots :D

Apologie to Doom for to many dots.
"If war is what your looking for, I know where you can find it... ya go to the corner of May St. and go inside Wars R Us."
-me

"A country cannot simultaneously prepare and prevent war."
-Albert Einstein

"What difference does it make to the dead, the orphans, and the homeless, whether the mad destruction is wrought under the name of totalitarianism or the holy name of liberty and democracy?" -Gandhi

Armory= Blazer, Vaporizer, 2003

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Post by SSCBen » Sat Jul 03, 2004 2:31 am

Uhh, my eyes...

Please please use punctution and paragraphing correctly! I didn't even bother to read that post because of all the dots and the fact that nearly every sentence was a paragraph. That's much harder to read and very annoying.

I really hate it when someone goes like "Im having trouble K modding," too. It's not Im, it's I'm, not hard to do. Use contractions correctly! This isn't AIM, this is a forum and you have time to write out your posts.

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Post by DX » Sat Jul 03, 2004 3:03 am

Yeah, I'm going to start using apostrophes again. I still don't believe in them, but it's better posting ettiquite[sp?].
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Post by Sky_T_219 » Sat Jul 03, 2004 3:05 am

If your opponent doesn't know about the increase in men, you could try to fool them. Your 2 friends and you should attack straight on and distract them, while the other 2-3 people should sneak up from behind. You would take them by suprise majorly!
<span style='font-size:14pt;line-height:100%'><u>My Arsenal:</u>
<span style='color:green'>1x CPS 10000 (K-modded)
1x Triple Aggresor
1x Vaporizer
1x Max-D 2000
1x XP 70
<span style='color :o range'>~More to come~

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Post by onlydecoppi1991 » Sat Jul 03, 2004 8:04 pm

I still have to get my map planned out but it is raining today so I can't
anyways most of my team knows the place like the palm of thier hand,
I like the idea about making only a couple coming in at the start, and then snkeak attack them from behind.

Thanks

Do you have any more ideas?

Peace out
"If war is what your looking for, I know where you can find it... ya go to the corner of May St. and go inside Wars R Us."
-me

"A country cannot simultaneously prepare and prevent war."
-Albert Einstein

"What difference does it make to the dead, the orphans, and the homeless, whether the mad destruction is wrought under the name of totalitarianism or the holy name of liberty and democracy?" -Gandhi

Armory= Blazer, Vaporizer, 2003

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Post by Die2nafish » Tue Jul 06, 2004 3:29 pm

Go for them one at a time. If you see a single person, or even two people alone, have your whole team attack them full force, thus eliminating them slowly, but without very much resistance.

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Post by blaze » Tue Jul 06, 2004 7:51 pm

Hmm. I know the perfect answer for awesome defense. Find a Stream Machine type piston (dip in water, pull back, force forward to shoot), preferrably a Stream Machine because of their strong design and large nozzles, and use that for base defense. Use the water from the river ONLY for the Stream Machine weapon. If you use it in a soaker, something from the river could clog up the soaker and ruin it. Stream Machines are the best for base defense. I have the longest type (I forgot the length) and it can shoot almost 40 feet for a few seconds, with a 15x sized nozzle!

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Post by Adrian » Tue Jul 06, 2004 8:00 pm

You're going to have to fight guerrilla style. Run and gun, and never ever go head on with them. Don't stay in one place too long (even your base), you'll just get trapped there. Instead, find a couple spots on the battleground where you can take a breather and reload, and alternate between them.

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Post by Belisaurius » Tue Jul 06, 2004 11:08 pm

I suggest always trying to have at least one guy attacking their flanks whenever you meet. also, if the grass is tall enough I'd suggest using it as cover for some good ambushes. try and find out as quickly as possible who their commander is and try to take him out. maybe they will buckle without leadership, but the may not listen to them anyway. either way, try and disorganize their war effort and keep yours as secretive as possible. good luck!
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Post by Phantom » Fri Jul 09, 2004 12:28 am

If you plan to fight a guerilla war, it would be best to have a mobile base. This means establishing multiple refill points beforehand. If you have snow sleds, you can use them to make a shelter for your cooler, or give them to defending warriors.

So, if you are ever fighting the enemy, and you don't have a water source to fall back on, make sure your troops manuver (sp?) toward a new source.

Another idea would be to hide your base deep in the woods. This would mean several things:

Pros:
The enemy will have a hard time finding your base, and if they do, you will be able to fortify it (tarps, shields, whatever)
You will be able to refill without being shot
The enemy will be annoyed.
Cons:
If you are also fighting a guerilla war, you will have to leave no one to defend.
If you are careless is going back to the base, they will find out where it is, and your outnumbered team will be defeated.

Good luck!

EDIT: Took out some references to hoses (forgot all water will be brought in)

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Post by Storm » Fri Jul 09, 2004 12:24 pm

Do you guys have radios? If so that could prove to be a great advantage for you. You could possibly set a sniper near the ditch and he could take out anyone coming near the base.
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