Best Air-Pressure Gun

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What is the Best Air-Pressure gun?

XP-150
3
17%
XP-95
0
No votes
XP-250
0
No votes
XP-300/SS-300
5
28%
XP-105
0
No votes
XP-110
0
No votes
XXP-275
2
11%
XP-310
6
33%
XP-270
0
No votes
Max-D 6000
1
6%
Xenon
0
No votes
Krypton
0
No votes
Triple Shot
0
No votes
Other
1
6%
 
Total votes: 18

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Post by Soakologist » Fri Jul 29, 2005 11:59 pm

Mine: XP-150. Classic styling, sweet power, not much pumping, incredible capacity, and of course: Riot Blast!
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Post by Spinner » Sat Jul 30, 2005 9:20 am

Ooh...tricky one. For me, it would probably come down to either the XP 150 or XXP 275, although I reckon the XP 250 and SS 300 would be close contenders if I had tested them. The XP 110 is also one of my personal favourites.
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Post by Wild Boys » Sat Jul 30, 2005 1:49 pm

XXP 275. The only air pressure gun that I have. Its very good with great soakage for an air pressure soaker with the double nozzles. Personally, I am put off by the XP 150. Its a great gun I am sure but the one I got was nearly dead when I received it. It didn't go very well in a war because of its problem which made me not want it after numerous goes of trying to fix it. The XXP 275 I think would beat it because of its soakage and double nozzles. ;)

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Post by Spinner » Sat Jul 30, 2005 2:35 pm

Originally posted by Wild Boys@Jul 30 2005, 01:49 PM
XXP 275. The only air pressure gun that I have. Its very good with great soakage for an air pressure soaker with the double nozzles. Personally, I am put off by the XP 150. Its a great gun I am sure but the one I got was nearly dead when I received it. It didn't go very well in a war because of its problem which made me not want it after numerous goes of trying to fix it. The XXP 275 I think would beat it because of its soakage and double nozzles. ;)
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Such a contest would be close, though: despite the higher soakage of the 275, the 150 is definitely easier to use and manoeuvre with, whilst still providing very good soakage for its class.
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Post by Wild Boys » Sat Jul 30, 2005 5:04 pm

The XP 150 in some ways isn't easier to use. Like when screwing the tank on its a pain and when I used it in the battle it really lost time when filling. I spent more time filling it than battling. Don't get me wrong, the XP 150 is good if you get one that works well. But, in my personal opinion I like the 275 better.

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Post by Monsoon » Sat Jul 30, 2005 5:10 pm

I voted the XP 150, partly because I own one and partly because it beats my XP 310 over in a water fight. Overall the XP 150 has better performace (other than the twist-off reservoir, that's the only flaw) than most other air pressure blasters. Just take a look at the size of the dual pressure chambers, it's got huge shot time written all over it.
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Post by RacerSoaker445 » Sat Jul 30, 2005 5:14 pm

The XP 75 is my FAVORITE, it's one of the best backup guns IMO.

But in this case, I voted SS 300.
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Post by Spinner » Sat Jul 30, 2005 8:01 pm

Originally posted by Wild Boys@Jul 30 2005, 05:04 PM
The XP 150 in some ways isn't easier to use. Like when screwing the tank on its a pain and when I used it in the battle it really lost time when filling.
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Yeah, that's definitely a flaw, I was aware of that. I just feel that that particular flaw isn't as serious as the location of the trigger on the 275; but that's subjective, of course.

As for the XP 75, it seems a decent enough backup gun, but I haven't yet done extensive testing with mine - it has an intermittent trigger valve problem.
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Post by ZOCCOZ » Sun Jul 31, 2005 4:57 am

Voted SS300. After 11 years its still the most powerful retail Air Pressure water gun ever build. And that sais a lot, since there are literaly around a 1000 of different airpressure models out there(including no-names and fakes.) A 1.5 litre Pressure Chamber capacity with a 8 Litre backpack sais it all. Even with the fragile trigger system(which only breaks if the user is irresponsible), if taken care well, it can still get do job done nowdays. Maxed pumped, that 5X blast can almost reach the 50 feet mark, which usualy was just an exaturation on the classic packaging. fairly mobile aswell.

Comparison in PC size, that determines the power of an Air Pressure soaker(in other words bigger PC means more power):

SS 300 : 1.5 Litre
SS Pool Pumper : 1.25 Litre
XP 250 : PC size unknown, but PCs were slightly larger than from the XXP 275
XXP 275 : 0.75 Litre
XP 150 : 0.7 Litre
SS 200 : 0.6 Litre
SS 100 : 0.5 Litre
XP 310: 0.35 Litre
Max-D 6000 : 0.28 Litre
Triple Aggressor : 0.18 Litre

So yeah, the SS300 still is state of the art in power and output combination in the airpressure realm.
On a sidenote, its interesting the SS100,SS200,SS300 have still more power than every Super Soaker Airpressure model made in 2000-2005. Not just the classics, but I had a SS100 typ small- name (Europlay) brand soaker in 1992 that performed like a SS100. So a Max-D 6000 has less power than a 1992 Europlay soaker. Autsch! Oh how the mighty have fallen.

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Post by Soakologist » Fri Aug 05, 2005 4:37 am

Interesting discussion. I'm glad I sparked such interest.
Long shot time and big PC are great, but IMHO the SS/XP-300's PC is too large. How can it be too large? Because it's an Air-Pressure gun! If the PC is too large, too much of the shot time is wasted on the dribblins (what I call drop-off amongst Air-Pressure guns). The XPs decrease dribblins time a lot because of well-designed components. And the XP-300 is nothing more than a CS 300 in different colo(u)rs. It's not really an XP, per se. Also, the 300 (XP and CS) is too fragile for my taste. I want a tough soaker that I won't be afraid to "hit the deck" with. And by hit the deck, I don't mean smashing my soaker against my deck (idiot), I mean falling to the ground to protect from ambushes. Also, the XP-150 is about the biggest size I'd want for an Air-Pressure gun. Anyone who goes out with an XP-250 as their main weapon is looking for trouble. It may shoot a lot, but you're going to get creamed with anything more powerful than the SC 600. The XXP-275 might have a fighting chance against anything up to a CPS 1000/1200/2100, but anything as powerful as a CPS 1500 or Monster (01) is going to be drenched. The XP 150 isn't to be taken out as a main weapon (unless you're a scout), but it makes one heck of a sidearm. And a kickass sidearm beats out a decent main weapon (250, 275) in terms of value in my book.
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Post by ZOCCOZ » Mon Aug 15, 2005 11:51 pm

Longer drop off also means longer max power in the SS300. Same like shorter drop off means shorter max power. Its only severly messed up lemons that would have a short power long drop of ratio. But other than that, its all in the PC. The long max power on the SS300 is a fairly good trade and natural for the longer drop off. Like I said, its all in the PC, which is the heart/muscle of an Airpressure model. My 1992 SS100 had longer power than my Max-D 6000 (compared same nozzle sizes of course.)

As for ideal size, people wanting small Air Pressure soakers would be a generational thing. Same like Hasbro nowdays prefers tiny CPS blasters.
Personaly, as long it has power, I don't care if its CPS or Air Pressure. To me Airpressure models should be huge. The average hight of water battles is the age of 11-15. When I was that age, thats when the SS50, SS100, SS200 and SS300 came out. Every year better bigger and more power. Psycologicaly, it was prity cool. So even today, the SS300 is the standard in power for me.
The XP 150 is a good soaker, but just to small. And the XP250 and XXP275 are just baby versions of the SS300, so abit overated in my taste.

Technicaly, since CPS has no drop off, keeping them small would be more justifiable than keeping Airpressures small, since larger PC will have a longer shot time and longer, larger max power. You would have more bang for your buck with a small CPS and a very incredibly large Air Pressure. Now having said that, I prefere both large. But if I would pick a small soaker, I rather have it CPS based.

Build whise, 1993 models where very similar to XPs. Its already the transitional period, where the buidling material is not that different. The SS300 blaster body is still more robust than the XP250. The Lever triggers are about the same.

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