Broken/braking 21k

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Post by elusiveviper723 » Mon Jul 26, 2004 9:33 pm

My 21k was pumped too hard my my dumb brother and the nozzle chamber where the water goes from the tube to the pc cracked so all the pressure was released and you can't pump it otherwise water spills out. How do I fix it? I epoxyed it once and im doing it again cuz the 2nd time it cracked. Is there a better way to fix this problem?

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Post by Drewsky92 » Mon Jul 26, 2004 10:28 pm

I think you are fine. Just make sure the epoxy's waterproof.

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Post by elusiveviper723 » Mon Aug 02, 2004 12:03 am

yeah I tried that and it still leaks......so wut do I do?...im thinking of taking off all the epoxy and redoing it and making sure the stuff is water proof..it says it is but...just to make sure

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Post by Veteran » Mon Aug 02, 2004 2:47 am

Sand all the valves and tubing you want to reinforce then cover them with ABS Cement. It becomes more solid than most epoxies I've used, although I'd still consider it a type of epoxy. It's working great, I just cvf and rienforced my 2100 (soon to be k) and I've had no breakages.

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Post by elusiveviper723 » Mon Aug 02, 2004 5:29 am

sounds good....does it go on clear or not....and how much does it cost?

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Post by Veteran » Mon Aug 02, 2004 5:05 pm

No it doesn't. It's black. Use some makeup if you want to touch it up :P I can't remember how much it cost because it sat in my garage for a few months, it was probably less than $10 though.

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Post by King Soaker » Mon Aug 02, 2004 7:04 pm

Veteran is right about sanding it first, and make sure it's dry. JB Weld will work well also. I would use the ABS cement, and then add a coating of epoxy. It should be stronger than the original then.
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Post by Jadefalcon09 » Mon Aug 02, 2004 7:12 pm

Hm the valve is cracking? not good.Do what everyone says and reinforce the internals and the damaged area. However Id just rather go out and buy one at SA for 8 dollars and mod that one instead of working ont he broken one. I know what it is like to have the armory raided by siblings. Tell your brother and/or your parents that the gun was modified and is dangerous, and shouldn't be touched. Then you'll have him out of your hair, hopefully for good.

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Post by elusiveviper723 » Mon Aug 16, 2004 9:31 pm

yeah...that seems like the best idea

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Post by ZookaForPrez » Tue Aug 17, 2004 1:43 am

Yes, like Veteran said ABS cement works really well. If not get some good Epoxy and like most people said, make sure it's water proof.
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Post by DX » Tue Aug 17, 2004 1:54 am

I use PVC Cement and that actually works very well. It only takes about a half hour to fully dry, while my friend's epoxy-type cement took about 2 days. PVC cement also only costs $3.00!
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Post by elusiveviper723 » Sun Sep 05, 2004 5:00 am

would I have to take all of the epoxy I had on there and re apply the cement or could I just make another layer?

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Post by SSCBen » Sun Sep 05, 2004 4:19 pm

Originally posted by Duxburian@Aug 16 2004, 08:54 PM
I use PVC Cement and that actually works very well. It only takes about a half hour to fully dry, while my friend's epoxy-type cement took about 2 days. PVC cement also only costs $3.00!
I have heard that PVC Cement is one of the worst glues you can use. I believe it was on the old GnG, I don't have time to dig it up, but it was there. PVC Cement is designed to work on PVC, not other plastics. It also is designed to melt PVC together in the joints, it does not hold well for other things.

The same should hold true for ABS Cement. If it works, you're lucky, but I would use trusted glues.

Anyway, if it takes 2 days to dry that's good, you know it probably will have a good strong seal.

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Post by DX » Mon Sep 06, 2004 2:53 am

That may be true, but I have used the pvc cement successfully with all of my mods. It has been reliable for sealing the check valve, reinforcing the trigger valve, and for some other items. I would get a different glue if it didn't hold, but it has so far. PS: sorry I've got typing errors in here, I'm working off a labtop in Shelter island, NY and my typing is terrible on labtops.

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